"Henry had six wives and at least two and probably three mistresses. Between the eight or nine of them, there were just six lives births, only four of whom made it past six weeks, and only two of whom survived their teens. There had to be a point where even Henry must have seen that he was the common denominator. Mind you, I'm not blaming him. If he was relatively infertile and struggled with impotency, that is nothing against his character or manhood, anymore than it's a woman's fault if her ovaries fail. Often couples talk about whose "fault" childlessness is, and unless someone has destroyed their own fertility through deliberate bad living, the only one at fault is Mother Nature."

Its true common sense would look at Henry as the common denominator, but I think in those days the woman was always blamed. I think there is a scene where Anne Boleyn own father berates her and asks angrily "what did you do to lose the baby" Even if anyone thought the trouble could lie with Henry they would be too afraid to voice their opinion, they were living in a time when they couldn't even think about the death of their Sovereign so they had to be careful of what they said and to who (that is another reason why I think they are portraying Derham way over the top), sorry I think I went a bit off topic and mixed 2 threads

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Hi. I totally agree that there was nothing in his smile that seemed insincere. I'm just basing my comment on who he is and how he is portrayed. He probably did think he was cute -- how could you not? -- but he's a selfish, cold man and recognized that his future is with Edward. That's really all I meant.
On the Garinder thing, I didn't see a bit of sadness in his face, actually. More like hearing a comment from one who thinks like him and the wheels are continuing to turn as to how he can get rid of Surrey with this ally. I really don't think there has been much depth to Edward ... certainly not as it is acted.

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