I have sent out a general message to members informing everybody of the Tudor Series Study. This will be the thread for us all to discuss any aspect of the programme that we wish. It has been suggested that we aim for one episode a week. So we will start off with the first episode and try to get any discussion on that finished by Sunday 29th January. If comments from the first week spill over onto the second it will be okay but if we can try to keep to one episode a week that would be helpful. Also I should point out that if you can only comment occasionally on an episode that is fine.

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Today's vote.......

Catherine of Aragon OR Anne Boleyn?

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Which moments are your favorite ones during the seasons? There are so many but for me I would have to say
*When Wyatt comes to Annes execution-so sad and moving
*Wolsey commits suicide, love how they link the theatric scene "wolsey is going to hell" with his suicide
*When prince Edward shows Henry the portrait of Jane and the thimble
*When Wyatt and Smeaton looks across the room (right before everything is falling apart) saying something like " there´s´something going on, I just don´t know what" and also the scene where Wyatt leans against the wall when he is about to be arrested.
*Jane Seymours funeral with the beautiful theme played
* The flashback in the final scene where Henry´s life is passing by

There are many more.. Which ones are yours?

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I first got interested in history when I read Gone With The Wind about 6 years ago. After that I went on a civil war study and read all I could about the times. I wasn't so interested in the war itself, but in the people and how they lived. then I read "Cane River", and got interested in slavery and read a lot on that subject. Several years ago I read Gregory's "The Other Boleyn Girl". I admit that at the time, I knew nothing. I didn't even remember she died at the end! What can I say....I was a product of US public schools. lol After that, I started to read both fiction and non-fiction books on the Tudor family and it became a real obsession. I was thrilled when The Tudors came out, though as I didn't have Showtime at the time, I wasn't even aware of the series until they started advertising Season 2. I Netlixed the first season and quickly caught up. I'm pretty well versed in Tudor history at this point, I've read probably more than 30 books on the Tudors and other European monarchs. My obsession continues!

What about you?

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We have quite a comprehensive list of favourite moments. Please put three pluses and three minuses against the entries. When we have got the list down to the final six we will revert to a plus one and minus one.. Please remember to adjust the score when you place a plus and a minus by one of the scenes.

Henry & Anne's Volta Dance (10)
Anne's Execution Episode (10)
Henry Looking at his Portrait with flashback to his younger days (10)
Henry Trying to Heal Charles Brandon (10)
Katherine Howard's Execution Dance (10)
Duke of Buckingham's Execution combined with Henry hearing of the birth of Henry Fitzroy (10)
The Ghosts of Katherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn & Jane Seymour (10)
Charles Brandon getting caught with the Duke of Buckingham's Daughter (10)
Margaret Tudor's Bedding Ceremony with the King of Portugal (10)
Charles Brandon's Death Scene (10)
Anne dancing for the King of France (10)
Henry crying at Jane Seymour's Body (10)
Mary Tudor to Anne Boleyn "I recognise no Queen but my mother (10)
The Earl of Surrey's Trial (10)
Surrey and Lady Hertford's Seduction Game (10)
Henry Trying to Leap Over Pond (10)
Wolsey's Death Scene (10)
Cromwell's Archery Scene - when he scores bullseye (10)
Cromwell's Execution Scene (10)
Peter O'Toole's Pope signing bill to make Cranmer Archbishop of Canterbury (10)
Compton Seduces Thomas Tallis (10)
Henry and Anne's Forest Love Scene (10)
Henry Strikes the Lord Chancellor when he comes to arrest Catherine Parr (10)
Lady Hertford turns the tables on Stephen Gardiner when he tries to arrest her ((10)
Henry Notices Anne at the Masquerade (10)
Henry's Argument with Chapuys "Am I Not A Mam?".(10)
Bishop Fishers Execution Scene (10)
Anne & Henry reunite after Sweating Sickness (10)

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The idea here is to answer the question on the previous post and then set one of your own. As I am starting there obviously isn't a question already set. So I will put the first question. Whoever answers it should then set one of their own. It can be anything Tudor related. Hopefully a few people will join in because the main thing is obviously not to end up answering your own question.

Question 1) What was the relationship between Jasper Tudor and the founder of the Tudor dynasty Henry VII?.

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For those of you that want to take part in the film study of Anne of the Thousand Days. If we could watch it in the next couple of weeks that would be great. If you see it later please still feel free to add your comment here

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One of the most asked questions on the wiki has been, when or if there will be another series of The Tudors carrying on with Edward, Jane Grey, Mary and Elizabeth. Michael Hirst the creator and writer of the series was recently at the Mary Rose Museum and was asked this question and you can listen to his answer here :

http://www.maryrose500.org/whats-happening/238-blasts-from-the-past.html

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Now that all 4 seasons are done, let's see who our top 3 characters are.

Here is a list of the main characters/actors and each member can vote for...
3 with +1 ... and ... 3 with -1 per day. (a total of 6 votes) per day.
Go to the last page, copy and paste the last list you see and add and subtract your votes.

For the purposes of this vote, it is a list of characters from ALL the seasons so it has been whittled down to just the main or most famous ones. The list would have been too long for all of them. You can vote EITHER based on the actor OR the historical character depending on what personally appealed to you the most. (This should keep us busy for a while!) When one character/actor reaches 100, we will stop the game and see who the top 3 turn out to be.

Pope Paul III/ Peter O'Toole (10)
Sir Thomas Wyatt/ Jamie Thomas King (10)
Henry Howard, Earl of Surrey/ David O'Hara (10)
Sir Edward Seymour/ Max Brown (10)
Sir Thomas Boleyn/ Nick Dunning (10)
Sir Thomas More/ Jeremy Northam (10)
Cardinal Thomas Wolsey/ Sam Neill (10)
Sir Thomas Cromwell/ James Frain (10)
Princess Mary Tudor/ Sarah Bolger (10)
Catherine Parr/ Joely Richardson (10)
Katherine Howard/ Tamzin Merchant (10)
Anne of Cleves/ Joss Stone (10)
Jane Seymour/ Annabelle Wallis & Anita Briem (10)
Anne Boleyn/ Natalie Dormer (10)
Katherine of Aragon/ Maria Doyle Kennedy (10)
Sir Charles Brandon/ Henry Cavill (10)
King Henry VIII/ Jonathan Rhys Meyers (10)

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I am the author of "Threads: The Reincarnation of Anne Boleyn," and will have Susan Bordo as my special guest for a Q & A session discussing the Tudors, and their historians. Susan is writing, "The Creation of Anne Boleyn," which discusses and examines the liberties biographers, novelists and movie makers have taken with the Tudors, throughout the centuries. Was Anne Boleyn born in 1501 or 1507? Did she have six fingers? Was she a witch? Did Henry VIII have syphilis, diabetes or Borderline Personality Disorder?

Most historians and biographers fake it more than they admit, when they write about the Tudors. Most novelists have to fill in the blanks and make good guesses from conflicting information. But what was true? How far can writers and movie makers drift from that truth? Come join in the discussion and add your thoughts!

For a link to the discussion, visit http://www.goodreads.com/group/show/37092 and join the group. Or friend me on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/nell.gavin, or "like" The Creation of Anne Boleyn page at https://www.facebook.com/thecreationofanneboleyn. When we have a URL, we will post it in our status.

It begins Friday September 30, and continues through Sunday October 2. Susan and I will visit frequently to address your questions and comments.

Hope you'll join us!

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