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today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ?
Feb 11 2012, 9:02 AM EST
I remember in the series , at the death of Jane Seymoure , Henri mentions that his mother died of "childbed fever" too .. anyone knows how close was Henri to his mother and if he moarned her a lot ?I know that she died when he was Do you find this valuable?
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freya9 |
1. RE: today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ?
Feb 11 2012, 2:10 PM EST
Henry, unlike his brother, was brought up with his mother and sisters. It seems he had a great affection for her and was devestated by her death. David Starkey has said that judging by their similiar handwriting that Elizabeth taught her young son to write which I think indicates a close relationship. He named his daughters after his favourite sibling Mary and his mother Elizabeth.
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howardfan |
2. RE: today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ?
Mar 2 2012, 12:47 AM EST
"Henry, unlike his brother, was brought up with his mother and sisters. It seems he had a great affection for her and was devestated by her death. David Starkey has said that judging by their similiar handwriting that Elizabeth taught her young son to write which I think indicates a close relationship. He named his daughters after his favourite sibling Mary and his mother Elizabeth."yes that is what I read too. A thrilling read about his early life which is only marginally fictionalized is the autobiography of henry VIII by margaret george. Hentry goes into detail about his relationship with his loving mother and sister mary rose :) His father actually thought very little of henry, and favoured their eldest and heir to the throne as was custom of the day, Arthur in fact he had told henry he would NEVER be king. Also from what I had studied, henry's father was a very frugal man who lived on as little as possible, he did not give into the frivolous lifestyle like was the trend in France, but henry broke his fathers tradition and lived a very glamorous and sexual lifestyle Do you find this valuable? |
royalfalcon |
3. RE: today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ?
Mar 2 2012, 5:45 AM EST
Henry VII was understandably cautious. He had fought for the crown and had to see off challenges throughout his reign. I have just started a book called Winter King which is all about his life - it looks like it will be a very interesting read. I think the autobiography of Henry VIII by Margaret George is good entertainment - however, it is still a book of fiction at the end of the day. .
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princess212 |
4. RE: today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ?
Mar 2 2012, 7:15 AM EST
You would think with a loving relationship with his mother, he would have nice ones with his daughters and wives. I also heard about the writing similarities between Elizabeth of York and Henry VIII. Never understood why Henry VII was so greedy when it came to money yet never spent it. I guess he was trying to build the wealth of England.
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royalfalcon |
5. RE: today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ?
Mar 2 2012, 7:32 AM EST
Princess212, I think one of the reasons Henry senior appeared greedy with money was because he knew what it was like not to have much. He left his son well provided for, the coffers were full.
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princess212 |
6. RE: today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ?
Mar 2 2012, 7:36 AM EST
That I can understand, but what of the two men (i don't remember their names) who he employed to collect money and they did so using unfair means which lead to them being executed by Henry VIII? He does not have to scam his own people in order to get money.
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freya9 |
7. RE: today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ?
Mar 2 2012, 8:29 AM EST
Were their means unfair ? In biographies of Henry VIII I have read they usually give Henry executing these two ministers less for their behaviour and more to win the affection of the people.
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princess212 |
8. RE: today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ?
Mar 2 2012, 9:45 AM EST
I thought that their practices was the reason they were so highly hated amongst the people and Henry took advantage of that.
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royalfalcon |
9. RE: today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ?
Mar 2 2012, 10:42 AM EST
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The two men conerned were Edmund Dudley (Robert's grandfather) and Richard Empson. They were made scapegoats at the beginning of Henry VIII's reign although they were only doing Henry VII's bidding - let us face it tax collectors are never popular and it was a great Public Relations exercise at the start of Henry VIII's reign.
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10. RE: today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ?
Mar 2 2012, 2:19 PM EST
"Henry VII was understandably cautious. He had fought for the crown and had to see off challenges throughout his reign. I have just started a book called Winter King which is all about his life - it looks like it will be a very interesting read. I think the autobiography of Henry VIII by Margaret George is good entertainment - however, it is still a book of fiction at the end of the day. ."Winter King is very good, although it does get bogged down at times in financial details. Henry VII used every trick in the book to fleece his subjects, so it is not surprising that he was pretty unpopular by the end of his reign. However, he was also capable of lavish spending on state occasions - a trait inherited by his son. Do you find this valuable? |
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freya9 |
11. RE: today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ?
Mar 3 2012, 10:07 AM EST
And his Granddaughter Elizabeth. All three monarchs were experts in public relations and spin.
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royalfalcon |
12. RE: today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ?
Mar 3 2012, 1:14 PM EST
"And his Granddaughter Elizabeth. All three monarchs were experts in public relations and spin."LOL Yes they were well ahead of their time in that respect! Do you find this valuable? |
