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FrancePetre |
yes found something
Jan 23 2012, 5:53 AM EST
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Catherine gave birth to her only child — a daughter, Mary Seymour, named after Catherine's stepdaughter Mary on 30 August 1548, and died only six days later, on 5 September 1548, at Sudeley Castle in Gloucestershire, from what is thought to be puerperal fever or puerperal sepsis, also called childbed fever. Coincidentally, this was also the illness that killed Henry's third wife, Jane Seymour. It was not uncommon, due to the lack of hygiene around childbirth. Nevertheless, a theory exists that Catherine's husband, Sir Thomas Seymour, may have poisoned her in order to carry out his plan to marry Lady Elizabeth Tudor.Mary was left a destitute orphan in the care of Katherine Willoughby Duchess of Suffolk, who appears to have resented this imposition[1]. After 1550 Mary disappears from historical record completely, leading to the conclusion that she did not live past the age of two however some historian believe she did live into adulthood :-) 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?
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MsSquirrly |
1. RE: yes found something
Jan 23 2012, 11:58 PM EST
What is the source of this?
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royalfalcon |
2. RE: yes found something
Jan 24 2012, 6:37 AM EST
I have never read about a theory that Thomas Seymour might have poisned Catherine. I would love to know where this information comes from.
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FrancePetre |
3. RE: yes found something
Jan 24 2012, 7:04 AM EST
I found it in wikipedia and there is no reference citing next to that phrases so perhaps it is just a rumour and has no real scientific value. The reference lists on the bottom of the page is interesting and it might give a clue as to where this theory comes from , am gonna do some reshearch :-)here is the link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Parr Do you find this valuable? |
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royalfalcon |
4. RE: yes found something
Jan 24 2012, 7:06 AM EST
Thank you FrancePetre
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FrancePetre |
5. RE: yes found something
Jan 24 2012, 7:31 AM EST
cannot find any evidence so far so..but I just read that aparentely lady jane grey was godmother to catherine parr 's daughter mary http://englishhistory.net/tudor/monarchs/parr.html#Biography
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MsSquirrly |
6. RE: yes found something
Jan 24 2012, 8:23 AM EST
"I found it in wikipedia and there is no reference citing next to that phrases so perhaps it is just a rumour and has no real scientific value. The reference lists on the bottom of the page is interesting and it might give a clue as to where this theory comes from , am gonna do some reshearch :-)Ok I added that a citation was needed to that wikipedia page. Its a new theory to me and it would be good to show were it came from. Our Moderator GoldenAgedER is our resident Catherine Parr expert....we should ask her. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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FrancePetre |
7. RE: yes found something
Jan 24 2012, 8:36 AM EST
yes , thank you , would love to know more and orry if this info was mileading ..
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Anne'sCurls |
8. RE: yes found something
Jan 24 2012, 7:03 PM EST
Not to be rude but what's the point of this post? The tile says "yes found something" which made me think there was a prior conversation about this topic. I have heard about Katherine Parr's daughter and the mystery about her; in my local library there is a fiction book about her and speculation that she was Elizabeth's daughter. 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
henry's7thwife |
9. RE: yes found something
Jan 25 2012, 3:10 AM EST
Oh great! Take a man who is already down and then bash him again and again. Thomas Seymour was many things, but he was NOT a murderer. He was a brash and rash man, but that does not make him evil, or a murderer. Until there is some kind of concrete proof, people should simply refrain from talking against historical characters like this.
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GoldenAged.ER |
10. RE: yes found something
Feb 8 2012, 10:13 PM EST
It looks like this is from Wikipedia via the [1] in the paragraph. That page on Lady Mary Seymour on Wikipedia is constantly tampered with by anyone and everyone so therefore who knows where people are getting their info. No where in the Susan James and Linda Porter biographies does it say that she survived to adulthood or had children. As for poisoning, it is a theory I've heard before -- but the source of it? Wikipedia! Like I wrote -- Wikipedia is changeable by anyone at any time. It is just like this site. If you have a screename and sign up as a writer you can change the pages on here to say what you want. Lady Trywhitt was with Queen Katherine the whole time and wrote a written account of the whole thing before she died. She did not leave her side I believe. It is presented in Susan James's book. Look in there for the truth. Seymour was not THAT cruel. In the end he did apologize and try to make things better with Katherine but she was delirious; in and out while she laid dying, but like I said -- there is an account of her final days by Elizabeth Oxenbridge, Lady Tyrwhitt. Do you find this valuable? |
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MsSquirrly |
11. RE: yes found something
Feb 8 2012, 11:11 PM EST
"Like I wrote -- Wikipedia is changeable by anyone at any time. It is just like this site. If you have a screename and sign up as a writer you can change the pages on here to say what you want."ahh but the difference between Wikipedia and this wiki is that it is a huge website with many and varied subjects....the Tudors wiki is much much smaller and dedicated to only the Tudors. Nothing is posted on here without it being checked for a source... and if there is none, it will be removed or titled as "comments". Do you find this valuable? |
