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royalfalcon
royalfalcon
Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Oct 11 2011, 2:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 11 2011, 2:58 PM EDT
For those that are interested in taking part in the book study for the above mentioned book. It would be good if we can start reading now. The book is set in six sections, so I suggest we read the first section in about 10 days this would take us to around the 22nd October. If you would like to join in but know that you cannot start now please add your comments later if you wish This is just a guideline for us to follow. Do you find this valuable?    
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HeverRose
HeverRose
1. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Oct 12 2011, 3:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 12 2011, 3:01 PM EDT
Hello everyone:

if anyone is having trouble obtaining "In the Lion's Court" and would like to read the first part in order to participate in the discussion, I have Part One scanned in and can email it to you..

Just message me.

Sasha

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royalfalcon
royalfalcon
2. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Oct 12 2011, 3:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 12 2011, 3:06 PM EDT
Many thanks for that offer Sasha it is very kind of you. I have the book I ordered it through Amazon. I am sure that there are people who are having trouble getting hold of it though. Do you find this valuable?    
HeverRose
HeverRose
3. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Oct 15 2011, 2:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 15 2011, 2:14 PM EDT
I just read the first part yesterday and it was better than I thought it would be.

Derek Wilson takes a unique approach: Describing the moment in question ( in this part the year 1499 ) through the personalities of the men involved. In the first part he focuses mainly on Erasmus, who came over to England in 1499 and met the young boy Henry together with a young Thomas More. He also spends a good deal of time on More and Wolsey, who were both born around the same time, focusing on their education. He also talks at length about the young Thomas Howard, Duke of Norfolk. He briefly passes though the youth of Cranmer and Cromwell.

He describes this moment in history and how each of these people contributed to it I suppose his theory is that an age is made up of the people who are prominent at that time, and these people all had distinct personalities and agendas that contributed to this particular world picture and reality..

I love reading about the early lives of famous people, so it was quite interesting and I think anyone here would gain more perspective on these famous personages.

Particularily interesting is Sir Thomas More, especially in the light of having just seen A Man for all Seasons. Do you find this valuable?    
royalfalcon
royalfalcon
4. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Oct 15 2011, 2:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 15 2011, 2:35 PM EDT
A good review of the first part Sasha. I found it interesting.that Sir Thomas More took to wearing a hair shirt at age 18 years. It seems he only went into the law because it was what his father wished and he was an obedient son. I will be adding more because I still have more to read in this first section.. One more point I would like to add here Derek Wilson says and I believe quite rightly that this is the first time in history that we actually feel that we know the personalities who were contemporaries of the King and this is due in no small part to the genious of Hans Holbein. Do you find this valuable?    
HeverRose
HeverRose
5. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Oct 15 2011, 3:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 15 2011, 3:26 PM EDT
Thanks Carol. More is a fascinating person. I have a theory about him, and that is that his overarching virtue is in reality an effort to offset his darker side. I am curious to see how Wilson will account for More's character as the book progresses. He seems to be psychologically very adept. Do you find this valuable?    
HeverRose
HeverRose
6. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Oct 15 2011, 3:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 15 2011, 3:40 PM EDT
Holbein painted the famous paintings of More, Cromwell and Norfolk that we know today.

Too bad he did not paint Wolsey but he died a bit before the Holbein era.

Having one's portrait painted was on the rise in general as greater importance was given to one's life on earth. I would love to read a really good analysis of the various Tudor portraits. Do you find this valuable?    
henry's7thwife
henry's7thwife
7. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Oct 17 2011, 1:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 17 2011, 1:42 AM EDT
Just finished reading the introduction. Totally intend to take part in the discussion. I am actually excited with the approach taken in this book, as I am sick to the teeth of the bloody six wives. As put in the introduction, their influence can only be subtle and indirect, so I am always left fuming at the amount of space they take up everywhere when there are more interesting subjects to study in hand. Finally, a historian who has not succumbed to write about the holier than thou wives. Yayyyy!!! Do you find this valuable?    
henry's7thwife
henry's7thwife
8. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Oct 17 2011, 2:38 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 17 2011, 2:38 AM EDT
Pg. 13

A definition of Christian humanist is offered in the footnote. I remembered we discussed the humanism of Thomas More. So perhaps that is all there is to it? Humanism meant nothing more than 'rejection of the traditional scholastic method'. So, it really holds no value at all with regards to making Thomas More an enlightened man of his time. Do you find this valuable?    
henry's7thwife
henry's7thwife
9. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Nov 9 2011, 4:37 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 4:37 AM EST
Are we continuing with this book read? Do you find this valuable?    
royalfalcon
royalfalcon
10. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Nov 9 2011, 8:57 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 2:43 PM EST
"Are we continuing with this book read?"
Sorry I admit my study of this book has recently stalled. I am happy to go on with the book read if anybody else wishes to do so. I think that there are only three of us.in any case. If there is anybody else who wishes to join in then please add your thoughts here. Do you find this valuable?    
MsSquirrly
MsSquirrly
11. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Nov 9 2011, 6:18 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 6:18 PM EST
Sorry I wanted to take part but couldn't get my hands on the book. So I will have to order it online.
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royalfalcon
royalfalcon
12. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Nov 9 2011, 6:29 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 6:29 PM EST
Sue if you are able to get a copy of the book please join in. I got my copy from Amazon.. Also if anybody else wants to join in then please do. It certinly isnt too late. Do you find this valuable?    
HeverRose
HeverRose
13. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Nov 9 2011, 6:57 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 6:57 PM EST
I will get the second part scanned in and send Parts One and Two out to anyone who can't get the book.

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royalfalcon
royalfalcon
14. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Nov 10 2011, 3:35 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 10 2011, 3:35 AM EST
"I will get the second part scanned in and send Parts One and Two out to anyone who can't get the book.

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That is great Sasha many thanks. Do you find this valuable?    
henry's7thwife
henry's7thwife
15. RE: Book Study "In The Lion's Court"
Jan 23 2012, 2:01 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 23 2012, 2:01 AM EST
Btw, we are doing a book study on Facebook, since this seems to have petered out. If you want to join in, you are welcome, Sasha. Do you find this valuable?