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anneboleynfan92 |
The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 16 2011, 7:20 AM EDT
Odd way to describe it but who's death really was the best scene...historically or visually.I have to say the whole of Anne's final episode was excellent (i thought). However I also thought Catherine (of aragon's) death was sad too (though not an execution). 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?
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The_Lady_Alicia |
1. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 16 2011, 7:49 AM EDT
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KOA death had me bawling my eyes out. In terms of executions though, I think visually Anne's was the best by a mile. It was so elegantly done, and poignant. I hated the scene where Catherine Howard practised laying her head on the block naked. wtf?! Didn't understand what they were getting at there. I know she did ask for the block to practise with, but naked?! Bizarre. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
henry's7thwife |
2. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 16 2011, 8:00 AM EDT
The one which moved me the most was that of Thomas More. Jeremy Northam gave an excellent performance and I actually was moved for a while, surprising myself, lol! I know I am one of the few here having this opinion of Anne's death scene, but by the time she had done screaming in the name of acting all through season 2, I was eager to see her dead. KoA's death was not that poignant as its effect on Henry for me. But it was nicely done, imo. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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The_Lady_Alicia |
3. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 16 2011, 9:31 AM EDT
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"I know I am one of the few here having this opinion of Anne's death scene, but by the time she had done screaming in the name of acting all through season 2, I was eager to see her dead.I was never a fan of ND as Anne. I think she overacted a lot of the time, and her delivery made me cringe sometimes. But the most irritating thing for me was the perpetual self satisifed smirk that seemed to find its way onto her face in almost every scene. I felt quite moved by Robert Aske's execution - with Suffolk the only person in attendance. Poor Aske could barely breathe and was struggling to speak from being bound in those awful chains. I felt for Suffolk too as he was genuinely wrestling with his conscience in what to do during the Pilgrimage of Grace affair. He was in a very very difficult position. (I still can't excuse his womanising though) 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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henry's7thwife |
4. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 16 2011, 9:54 AM EDT
Oh yes! Aske was awesome! That was really a hard one. And Cromwell was a toughie to watch as well. I almost blanched at the botched execution.Do you find this valuable? |
royalfalcon |
5. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 16 2011, 10:59 AM EDT
I would certainly vote for Anne's execution as being the "best" to watch. This episode was beautifully done from start to finish - in my opinion one of the very best episodes in the entire series. Full marks to Natalie who I thought was a great Anne Boleyn.
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MsSquirrly |
6. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 16 2011, 11:17 AM EDT
Of course, how a performance is perceived is subjective but personally, I thought Natalie did a wonderful job of her portrayal of Anne. As JRM said, she threw every part of herself into her performance. As for the best execution....I have to say for sheer acting performance, Bosco Hogan as Bishop Fisher giving his scaffold speech - "I am only flesh and fear death as much as any man. It's true that I long since made up my mind to die if need be for Christ and his church. Now that the moment is at hand, I need your help." .....probably touched me the most. He made me believe how a person would feel in that moment. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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royalfalcon |
7. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 16 2011, 11:39 AM EDT
"Of course, how a performance is perceived is subjective but personally, I thought Natalie did a wonderful job of her portrayal of Anne. As JRM said, she threw every part of herself into her performance.I agree about Bishop Fisher. Bosco Hogan gave a marvellous performance and a very underrated one in my opinion. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
HeverRose |
8. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 16 2011, 12:15 PM EDT
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This is really an interesting question and it can be approached from different points of view. If you are talking about aesthetics, I agree with Royalfalcon that Anne's death was magnificent. Everything about it was stunning and by all accounts, the real Anne's death was not much different. She impressed most people who watched it. Which one was the most melodramatic? I didn't see Cromwell's because my heart would have stopped beating and i didn't want that, but Catherine Howard's death, with the laying of her pretty but dopey head on the bloody block like a doomed goose was really poignant. In reality, the higher ranked person goes first , but the show put Lady Rochford first in order to get the blood effect. It really woked on me. That was certainly an image made for the Chamber of Horrors at a wax museum. Do you find this valuable? |
freya9 |
9. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 16 2011, 2:49 PM EDT
I thought the most poignant moment with Katherine was when she looked up at the moon and said quietly 'life is so beautiful'. The image of a life being snuffed out when it should have just been begining was very touching.
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Christinadoreen |
10. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 16 2011, 3:24 PM EDT
I agree that Annes final episode was excellent, I had tears when it ended. I also thought Katherine Howards execution was really sad, when you think how young she was.
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ladyfraidy |
11. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 16 2011, 11:43 PM EDT
"Mr Hogan sure looked like the portrait of Fisher also. Did he really say that at his execution or just in the show? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
princess212 |
12. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 18 2011, 12:51 AM EDT
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I would have to say Thomas Moore. The way he placed himself on the block was astounding and so was his speech.
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MsSquirrly |
13. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 18 2011, 10:57 AM EDT
"Mr Hogan sure looked like the portrait of Fisher also. Did he really say that at his execution or just in the show?"He said something similar. "I am come hither to die for the faith of Christ's holy catholic church; and, I thank God, hitherto my stomach hath served me very well thereunto, so that yet I have not feared death; wherefore I desire you all to help and assist with your prayers, that, at the very point and instant of death's stroke, I may in that very moment stand steadfast without fainting in any one point of the catholic faith, free from any fear." 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
LadyPerseverance |
14. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 18 2011, 12:22 PM EDT
I guess I have to resound what a lot of people are saying...I believe Anne's execution was brilliantly and beautifully done, it brought tears to my eyes the first time I watched it...especially with the flashbacks of her as a little girl with her father. I also believe that Natalie Dormer was a fantastic Anne, but that's just my humble opinion as well ;) As for the most *shocking* I would have to say Cromwell's. I still shudder thinking about it! Do you find this valuable? |
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HeverRose |
15. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 18 2011, 12:51 PM EDT
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Speaking of the Thomas More execution, I thought it strange that in the show they carted him to the scaffold lying down. I had never seen that before. It made it more horrible, for sure, because it takes away a final moment of dignity that the condemned one can display to the crowd..
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MsSquirrly |
16. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Aug 18 2011, 2:49 PM EDT
"Speaking of the Thomas More execution, I thought it strange that in the show they carted him to the scaffold lying down. I had never seen that before. It made it more horrible, for sure, because it takes away a final moment of dignity that the condemned one can display to the crowd.."When people were "drawn" to an execution, they were tied to a board and dragged to it so perhaps the director used that in the scene for added drama? I read that because there were so many executions to film, he had to try and make each one look different. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Lady_Amber |
17. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Dec 28 2011, 5:42 PM EST
"I would have to say Thomas Moore. The way he placed himself on the block was astounding and so was his speech."Thomas Moore's execution had me crying my eyes out. It was so sad to watch he was a good man and was probably the only true friend the king had. Seeing how upset Henry was was also very moving to watch. Do you find this valuable? |
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freya9 |
18. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Dec 29 2011, 8:32 AM EST
The part I liked of Thomas More's excution was when he was being helped up to the scaffold and he said 'I'll be able to shift for myself on the way down'. I liked the fact that in the series he was shown to have a mischevious sense of humour, a fact ignored in many dramas. The part of an execution I disliked was having Catherine Howard wet herself although at least they didn't have her crying, begging and struggling as she was shown in Henry VIII.
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HeverRose |
19. RE: The "BEST" Execution in "The Tudors"?
Dec 29 2011, 3:16 PM EST
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"The part I liked of Thomas More's excution was when he was being helped up to the scaffold and he said 'I'll be able to shift for myself on the way down'. I liked the fact that in the series he was shown to have a mischevious sense of humour, a fact ignored in many dramas. The part of an execution I disliked was having Catherine Howard wet herself although at least they didn't have her crying, begging and struggling as she was shown in Henry VIII."He is known to have said that. Actually I thought that Catherine Howard moment to be very realistic. That is probably what a young person, not in total control of herself would do at such a time. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
