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JoeAASilmonMonerri
JoeAASilmonMonerri
THE SEYMOURS, ST. MAURS AND STE. MAURES ARE THREE SEPARATE DYNASTIES.
Apr 21 2011, 8:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 21 2011, 10:10 PM EDT
Please see my website (all pages, including Heraldry, Genealogy and History): http://www.thesecretlifeoftheearlstmaur.co.uk and/or Ch. 4 of my recently published book: "THE SECRET LIFE OF THE EARL ST. MAUR (1835-1869) - Was He My Great-Grandfather?", Trafford Publishing, Bloomington, Indiana, USA, for more information about the above ten-century-old surname controversy. There is no way that these three separately evolved families link up. They are cleverly "joined up" in mid-air, often after several generations have gone by, since Conquest times. Camden got it wrong, but Sir William Dugdale, Norroy King of Arms, etc., realised that they didn't connect, so in reports of his Visitations in his "Baronage of England" (pub. 1600s), he differentiated them as the St. Maurs (or 'de Sancto Mauros') and the Seymours ('Dukes of Somerset [Fifth Creation]). The Conqueror's companion knight, Widonis de Sancto Mauro, was from St.-Maur-des-Bois, Mortain, Avranches, Normandy. Seymour origins were always untraceable, as also their arms. They only emerge with clout from the 1300s onwards - and therefore not in the same Norman class (if they were, in fact, of Norman descent, which is still in doubt) as the St. Maurs (who bore totally different arms). Richard Harold St. Maur, the Earl's illegitimate son, in ANNALS OF THE SEYMOURS, Trubner, Trench, Kegan Paul, London, 1902, mistakingly placed Goscelin de Sainte Maure as Head of all the Seymours. Their arms were different again!
Yours sincerely,
Joe A A Silmon-Monerri, (little-known British author [the book isn't known in Britain yet, and took 3 decades to put together - but the Media were busy elsewhere during my Press-Conference near the site of the Earl's death 141 years earlier, in Dover St., Mayfair, London on 30/Sept./2010. It was, however, their worthy cause at the time - reporting on the near tragedy of the trapped Chilean miners, Bless 'em!).
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