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11 February 1466 - Elizabeth of York born
Feb 11 2011, 7:00 AM EST
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Elizabeth of York (11 February 1466 – 11 February 1503) was Queen consort of England as spouse of King Henry VII from 1486 until 1503, and mother of King Henry VIII of England.Elizabeth also died on her birthday in 1503. Elizabeth of York is the only English queen to have been a daughter, sister, niece, wife and mother of English monarchs during her lifetime. Do you find this valuable?
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MsSquirrly |
1. RE: 11 February 1466 - Elizabeth of York born
Feb 11 2011, 7:26 AM EST
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11 February is also Natalie Dormer's birthday...she is 29 today. :)
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Nofretete |
2. RE: 11 February 1466 - Elizabeth of York born
Feb 11 2011, 7:34 AM EST
Elizabeth of York is a quite overlooked woman among the Tudors I think. She saw a lot in her lifetime. I recently listened to a podcast by Phillipa Gregory, talking about her new book and she said she was convinced that Elizabeth of York actually loved Richard III and that she wanted to marry him and was not at all happy in her opinion to have to marry Henry Tudor. I wonder if this is just one of Phillipa Gregory's strange fantasies or if there might be any basis in truth? It would put quite a spin on her marriage to Henry. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
royalfalcon |
3. RE: 11 February 1466 - Elizabeth of York born
Feb 11 2011, 7:40 AM EST
It is also thought that Elizabeth of York had a strong influence .in the life of her son Henry and it was very likely her who taught him to write because of the similarity of their writing styles.
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jrmslady09 |
4. RE: 11 February 1466 - Elizabeth of York born
Feb 11 2011, 9:24 AM EST
That is truly unique to die on your birthday to be a woman who to England what she was it is also astonishing to me that she does seem to be overlooked as far as the Tudor Dynasty is concerned but, I hate to have to say it but unless a woman was either a martyr,a heretic,or queen who ruled on her own they seem to forget the women who made a true mark!!!Also Happy Birthday Natalie, have a wonderful day and a blessed year!!! Also of note today is also my father's birthday he has been on the planet for 67 years and well here's to another year for all of one that will be filled with all that we desire it be filled with love,happiness,and many special and sweet blessings!!! Do you find this valuable? |
ravenhair |
5. RE: 11 February 1466 - Elizabeth of York born
Feb 11 2011, 10:52 AM EST
Happy Birthday to the wonderful "ELIZABETH OF YORK ",she was the mother and grand mother of greatness !!!! Her legacy will live on forever,she may have been forgotten at times,but she was an important part of English History,and a Great Monarch And a special HAPPY BIRTHDAY to JRMSLADY O9's father !!!! hugs,Ravenhair 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jrmslady09 |
6. RE: 11 February 1466 - Elizabeth of York born
Feb 11 2011, 1:46 PM EST
Thanks ravenhair I will send him your best wishes and the wishes that most every person shares for the ones they know and the ones they may not Happiness,Wellness,Love,and many special blessings!!
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AJBates |
7. RE: 11 February 1466 - Elizabeth of York born
Feb 11 2011, 4:52 PM EST
"I recently listened to a podcast by Phillipa Gregory, talking about her new book and she said she was convinced that Elizabeth of York actually loved Richard III and that she wanted to marry him and was not at all happy in her opinion to have to marry Henry Tudor.I've read in a few different books that it appeared at least that Elizabeth of York loved Richard, not exactly sure it she was just going on and pretending to share in the feeling Richard had for her or not. Do you find this valuable? |
juliana-angela |
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Feb 12 2011, 5:18 PM EST
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"I've read in a few different books that it appeared at least that Elizabeth of York loved Richard, not exactly sure it she was just going on and pretending to share in the feeling Richard had for her or not."Elizabeth does seem to have been willing to marry Richard, although whether she loved him or just wanted to be Queen is not anything that we can know for certain. A seventeenth-century historian, George Buck, saw a letter which Elizabeth wrote to the Earl of Norfolk before Anne Neville's death in which she said that she wanted Norfolk to arrange her marriage to the King 'who was her only joy and maker in the world, and that she was in his heart and thoughts, in body, and in all' The letter was later lost, but modern historians accept that it was probably genuine and that Buck's account of it was quite accurate. The phrase 'in body and in all' may well imply that Elizabeth and Richard had some kind of sexual relationship So there is some truth in what Philippa Gregory said, although Elizabeth seems to have been happy enough to marry Henry Tudor and their marriage was quite successful. Do you find this valuable? |
poncianito |
9. RE: 11 February 1466 - Elizabeth of York born
Feb 14 2011, 2:32 PM EST
Elizabeth appears in three of Philippa Gregory's historical novels: briefly in The Constant Princess (2005), around the time of her son Arthur's marriage and death, but far more prominently in the account of her mother's life, The White Queen (2009), which features her from the time of her birth to the age of 18. She appears as a supporting character in The Red Queen, the sequel to The White Queen. In these novels, it is suggested that Elizabeth was indeed deeply in love with her uncle Richard and hoped to marry him rather than Henry Tudor.
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Carriep |
10. RE: 11 February 1466 - Elizabeth of York born
Feb 14 2011, 3:47 PM EST
Elizabeth of York wasn't the mother of a king in her lifetime because she died before Henry VII. Technically speaking as the oldest surviving child of Edward IV, Elizabeth of York was Elizabeth I, her granddaughter Elizabeth II, and the current Queen, Elizabeth III. But I guess joint rule a la Mary II and William III took a couple of generations or Elizabeth of York wasn't as popular as Mary II. I find it interesting because even though Mary II was Queen Regnant she preferred the role of Queen Consort. If Elizabeth of York did love Richard III romatically (which wouldn't have been too outre) it would be a reason why Henry VII didn't trust her. But I wouldn't take Philippa Gregory's word for it, there's a reason why her books are on the fiction shelf . . . 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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juliana-angela |
11. RE: 11 February 1466 - Elizabeth of York born
Feb 14 2011, 5:50 PM EST
Henry was careful to be crowned before he married Elizabeth so that it was clear that he was King in his own right rather than hers. Neither of them seems to have even considered joint rule, although there was an obvious contemporary precedent. Maybe it was partly Elizabeth's personality - she doesn't seem to have been very interested in governing.
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