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Reggie19
Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 15 2011, 10:02 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2011, 10:02 AM EST
I'm going to sound terribly anal in saying this but... why are old threads, some about two years old, being bumped all of a sudden? I've noticed it'sonly one or two people in particular that are doing it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one that finds this annoying, but I can't understand why members would go to the trouble of looking for old threads, which must be quite time consuming if the threads are two-years-old and buried way back in the discussion section? Surely it's easier, and faster to start a new thread about something you're interested in? Not only that but it's a pain to have to reread old threads, within which some people's opinions of certain characters have changed over the course of the last couple of years - I know that's the case with me. Not to mention some of these old threads that are being bumped are quite long, in that opinions have spanned about ten pages, and having to reread them must be a complete nightmare, so I just can't understand the logic in doing it. 7  out of 9 found this valuable. Do you?    
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royalfalcon
royalfalcon
1. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 15 2011, 10:34 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2011, 10:34 AM EST
"I'm going to sound terribly anal in saying this but... why are old threads, some about two years old, being bumped all of a sudden? I've noticed it'sonly one or two people in particular that are doing it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one that finds this annoying, but I can't understand why members would go to the trouble of looking for old threads, which must be quite time consuming if the threads are two-years-old and buried way back in the discussion section? Surely it's easier, and faster to start a new thread about something you're interested in? Not only that but it's a pain to have to reread old threads, within which some people's opinions of certain characters have changed over the course of the last couple of years - I know that's the case with me. Not to mention some of these old threads that are being bumped are quite long, in that opinions have spanned about ten pages, and having to reread them must be a complete nightmare, so I just can't understand the logic in doing it. "
I totally agree with you Reggie and it does seem to be one or two people in particular who are doing it. Not only would some opinions have changed in that time, also a lot of the people have left the wiki - challenging somebody who posted about two years ago to respond seems a bit pointless to me.
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AJBates
AJBates
2. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 15 2011, 11:24 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2011, 11:24 AM EST
It is annoying, it is esp. annoying to me when they are when they are about discussing things that would happen in an upcoming episode or season, which obviously now is no use talking about since the series is over so there can be no more speculation, or critism about what they said they were doing. 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
HeverRose
HeverRose
3. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 15 2011, 11:47 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2011, 11:47 AM EST
Youth and enthusiasm...they are like kids in a sweet shop...the old shopkeepers find it annoying but they are having a fun time! 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    

Reggie19
4. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 15 2011, 11:48 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2011, 11:48 AM EST
Exactly, i didn't even consider what you said royalfalcon as a factor, but now that you mention, it is very true indeed. What is the point of debating an opinion with someone if they are no longer a part of the board, and yes AJBates, i noticed this in partcular on a Kathryn Howard thread revolving around the synopsis of the episode in which she was to be executed, a fact that was left out of the synopsis, and someone highlighted this, wondering if she was indeed going to be executed. About a year later someone commented that the OP had an image of Kathryn on the block as their avatar, and asked why they were questioning the synopsis in he first place, and I think I almost saw red when I noticed that comment. 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
royalfalcon
royalfalcon
5. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 15 2011, 11:58 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2011, 11:58 AM EST
"It is annoying, it is esp. annoying to me when they are when they are about discussing things that would happen in an upcoming episode or season, which obviously now is no use talking about since the series is over so there can be no more speculation, or critism about what they said they were doing."
A.J.Bates. We in the United Kingdom have not even seen Season 4 yet. It apparently starts next Saturday - I cannot wait. Myself and my friend Kittywake have been trying to avoid comments about Season4 - which has not been easy.
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AJBates
AJBates
6. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 15 2011, 1:42 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2011, 1:42 PM EST
"A.J.Bates. We in the United Kingdom have not even seen Season 4 yet. It apparently starts next Saturday - I cannot wait. Myself and my friend Kittywake have been trying to avoid comments about Season4 - which has not been easy."
Really it still hasn't come out over there? I'd go crazy and just watch the episodes online. But then again, I watch them online anyway since i don't have showtime. I don't think I could handle waiting. You guys are patience champs!
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Kittywake09
Kittywake09
7. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 15 2011, 2:01 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2011, 2:01 PM EST
Hi we are certainly patient. It has been a game of thread dodging but what the heck we have it next week. I was tempted to watch online but held out with royalfalcon so we could talk about it. As for old threads I agree with what everyone says especially as pointed out a lot of the members have not posted in years. 2  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
Anne'sCurls
Anne'sCurls
8. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 15 2011, 3:52 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2011, 3:52 PM EST
Wow Reggie, contests for having the courage to bring up this problem. I don't know what is going on and yes it does seem to always be the same people doing it. It is extremely annoying and I'm happy it's not just me being irritable. 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
ravenhair
ravenhair
9. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 15 2011, 4:26 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2011, 4:26 PM EST
Heah you guys,
missed you all. You know, I always thought of the wiki ( our wiki ) as a place to constantly keep learning and ,you guys have taught me so very much.you'll just never know,I guess thats why you are all so important to me.( smiles ) But I don't know any of these old threads and I don't know any of these other people ??? It just confuses me,and I know that it confuses the new members even more ??? We need our new members,like they need us,to teach and learn from each other.you always welcome your new family memebers.but we won't be able to keep them,if they go onto a site that hasn't been used in two or three years,what will they think of the structure of our great wiki ??? and it is a GREAT WIKI !!! they won't understand,and we'll loose their interest.I know that we don't want that,this is a family and family sticks together.Why can't they do something with the old discussion threads,so they won't be so easy to get to.like you said,their two and three years old,way to old to still debate and we are all creative and BRILLIANT ( SMILES ) people,we can always create new ones,we do everyday.It's just my opinion,please,no one, take offense,I just agree 100 % with you guys,and our new members will suffer the most.
many hugs for my sweet family,
ravenhair
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jrmslady09
jrmslady09
10. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 15 2011, 4:36 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2011, 4:36 PM EST
I agree with you!!! It is important to maintain structure and continuity on our wiki!!! but bumping the thread may not be the way to go new members might do better i know i did when i was new i looked at both the new and the old and yes i posted to some old ones!!! but sometimes you get more knowledge and feedback from the old than the new but it goes both ways so to new members a tip!!! Read the old and then bring it into new discussion not in a thread but start a discussion via message with someone who started the discussion or someone who was in the discussion that made good points,arguments,discussions,etc. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
HeverRose
HeverRose
11. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 15 2011, 4:52 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2011, 4:52 PM EST
I agree too that it is unproductive to comment on an ancient thread. So let's offer some guidance to those who are doing this. Here goes:

Sweeties: It's great that you are here to share with us your interest in this exciting period of history and in this amazing television series. Many of the people who joined a while ago are no longer here, so let's stay away from reviving old threads, since it is highly unlikely that the commentators are still here to continue the discussion.

Instead, if you find a topic that interests you and might interest others, rework it with your own thoughts and present it as a new thread. This way, those that have an interest in the topic can comment back to you and the thread will be fresh and new, rather than old and dusty.

As Ravenhair said, the site needs new members for us all to grow and learn, so we all appreciate your input.
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Reggie19
12. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 15 2011, 5:46 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2011, 5:47 PM EST
"Wow Reggie, contests for having the courage to bring up this problem. I don't know what is going on and yes it does seem to always be the same people doing it. It is extremely annoying and I'm happy it's not just me being irritable. "
I was worried that if I saw someone else doing it again I'd probably scream at them, lol! That's why I decided to bring it up with other members so everyone is aware of the fact that I'm losing my patience with them, jk! It's just annoying to see these threads that that I recall seeing here when I first joined all the way up top of the discussions forum, it would be much more productive if new members, who have read these threads, to present their points again in another thread, as HeverRose suggested. Yes, we do indeed love to have new members to speak with about something we are all interested in, but I would love to see them doing so on a subject with members who can contribute... which is quite difficult when the members are no longer around, which would be commonly the case with threads that are two or three years old.
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Anne'sCurls
Anne'sCurls
13. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 16 2011, 12:43 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 16 2011, 12:43 AM EST
I agree, I actually commented in one of these old threads, like "wth". But I agree yes lets keep the board active but not by bringing back ancient threads. Just start a new discussion and people will either join in or not. Apparently S4 is starting in the UK soon (ok whats with the long delay with crossing the ocean) so maybe there will be some more threads talking about the events of the last season and that will get the board more active. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
HeverRose
HeverRose
14. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 16 2011, 11:04 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 16 2011, 11:04 AM EST
I am not sure if our message was delivered. Reggie, you may have to be the heavy here! Do you find this valuable?    
juliana-angela
juliana-angela
15. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 16 2011, 2:55 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 16 2011, 2:55 PM EST
I wouldn't want to put newer members off from posting, and perhaps some find it easier to add to a thread, however old, rather than starting a new one, which can be quite daunting.

I agree, though, that it would be better to start a new thread even if the topic is an old one. It can be good to revisit subjects to get new views and new information.
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Shenandoan
16. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 16 2011, 3:36 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 16 2011, 3:36 PM EST
It didn't bother me, since I just don't read nor reply to what seems not interesting to me, but since it is obviously annoying quite a lot of you, you could wonder how this wiki could be improved to minimize this kind of action.

I found this guideline on thread-posting:
No Forum Necromancy
The definition of this term is: Posting a reply on a long-dead thread when your reply adds no value to the conversation. More information may be found on this useful page:Forum Necromancy This can be distracting to older members and serves no purpose. This rule does not apply to featured threads.

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but I have to admit it takes some patience to come to that point. Reason: sorry to say, but the page has a bad lay-out, which makes it very unpleasant to read.
On an other place I came accross the item of locked threads. The way I look at it, some threads that are mentioned above can be locked according to the rules I read.

What would also be helpful, would be a "new here?" button to the horizontal menu. If it links to a well layed-out page, it would be very useful for new members and might prevent posting to old threads.
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ravenhair
ravenhair
17. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 16 2011, 4:09 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 16 2011, 4:09 PM EST
hello my sweet sisters,
I met and made friends with three members last night,two of which are new,and I explained this thread and asked them to read it ,so they would understand how important our thoughts were on this matter. I told them about the old threads and then walked them thru the new games and the new discussions so they would have some ideas about how and where to look for the right things..I even started a new discussion page last night ,I thought "you know what,practice what you preach"!! LOL So I did .AJBATES and I were doing it and discussing at the same time,we can do this,we can help them and keep them with us.We just have to help them thru it,thats all.I looked on the new member list and made new friends,then gave them the information,I'll keep a look out for our new members page,I don't want to us to loose our new family members,there to important to us all.We were all new at one time or another and we all know how they feel.
hugs,ravenhair
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KingHenryVIII
KingHenryVIII
18. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 16 2011, 4:31 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 16 2011, 4:36 PM EST
I seem to be one of the only that does not at all agree. And I am one of those "Bumping old threads". The thing is, I enjoy reading and I am very curious, so I often look through old threads and read some posts and get stuck on those that seem thrilling and I find it sad some have ended and think, we should continue that discussion, or bring that topic back up, so it is not forgotten. Like me constantly "Bumping" topics on Mark Smeaton, because nobody's talking about him anymore but I want people to talk about him so he's not forgotten. Same to other matters and threads. Well, that is my reason.

The thing is, I see no sense in creating a thread with the very same topic again when there already is one with the topic. I love to renew old threads so, as I said before, they are not forgotten.

I have noticed you often, having a problem with that @Reggie. But I really don't understand your problem, I dont see anything bad or annoying in renewing old threads, not at all. I think it SHOULD be that way.

Because what is annoying to ME, are tons of threads with the very same topic...
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royalfalcon
royalfalcon
19. RE: Bumping Old Threads?
Jan 16 2011, 4:46 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 16 2011, 4:46 PM EST
I am delighted to see you back posting Your Majesty, but I am afraid that on this subject I do not agree with you. I think that Reggie came up with an excellent reason why it is not good to dig up old threads i.e people's opinion could well change in the course of a couple of years. Another reason I gave myself, a lot of the people on those original threads are no longer wiki members and are often being asked to comment - rather difficult when they left ages ago. Also there has been a spate of these type of posts just recently and I do not think that they add anything positive to our wiki. 3  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
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