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sweetsister
sweetsister
Catherine Parr Reformer
Jun 7 2010, 12:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 7 2010, 12:46 PM EDT
Did I miss something on any of the episodes, how is it that Lady Mary and others are convinced or at least suspicious that CP is a reformer? I know that in reality she was but as far as the show is concerned I have not noticed any scene(s) where she may have given away any inclination to her true faith to have the Catholic faction already after her 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Simhawk09
Simhawk09
1. RE: Catherine Parr Reformer
Jun 7 2010, 2:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 7 2010, 2:40 PM EDT
"Did I miss something on any of the episodes, how is it that Lady Mary and others are convinced or at least suspicious that CP is a reformer? I know that in reality she was but as far as the show is concerned I have not noticed any scene(s) where she may have given away any inclination to her true faith to have the Catholic faction already after her"
I guess there could be many different explinations. The English court was always crawling with spys. One of her ladies-in-waiting could have slipped some info to Bishop Gardner or something. Plus, Catherine seems to be confiding in way too many people (Her sister Anne, The Latimer guy, Kat Ashley) So many people know about her intentions. Princess Mary could have been suspicious when she gave Catherine the book she translated for her. Her facial expressions were a little all over the place in that scene. It was like she wasn't sure if she should be happy with the gift or not.
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CarolineZ
CarolineZ
2. RE: Catherine Parr Reformer
Jun 7 2010, 5:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 7 2010, 5:02 PM EDT
Even though I know how everything works out, I feel like whispering to Catherine, watch out! Especially when Bishop Gardiner is around trying to scoop up small fry like Henry's poor barber! 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Elliemental
Elliemental
3. RE: Catherine Parr Reformer
Jun 7 2010, 7:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 7 2010, 7:57 PM EDT
The fact that she hired Hugh Latimer is a dead giveaway, though. The man was notorious. Do you remember the scene at the end of that episode when Wriothesley tells Gardiner about Latimer's appointment. Gardiner replies "And people say she is intelligent!". She has blown her cover. Do you find this valuable?    
sweetsister
sweetsister
4. RE: Catherine Parr Reformer
Jun 7 2010, 8:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 7 2010, 8:52 PM EDT
"The fact that she hired Hugh Latimer is a dead giveaway, though. The man was notorious. Do you remember the scene at the end of that episode when Wriothesley tells Gardiner about Latimer's appointment. Gardiner replies "And people say she is intelligent!". She has blown her cover. "
Ahh, yes youre right, I have to rewatch, I sometimes miss things
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Stephanieinaz
Stephanieinaz
5. RE: Catherine Parr Reformer
Feb 16 2012, 3:36 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 16 2012, 3:36 AM EST
The man she married after Henery. Seymour... he and his brother were both reformers. Some one must have known that they were 'friendly'. Isn't that why the king sent him away? Do you find this valuable?    
howardfan
howardfan
6. RE: Catherine Parr Reformer
Feb 22 2012, 3:11 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2012, 3:11 AM EST
Also she was friends with Charles brandons wife, best friends in fact and he was not known to be a staunch reformer was he? infact he was more prone to the old england under catholic rule so no doubt the gossip mill was a light with speculation from Catherine s so called 'friends' too although I was unaware that lady mary was resentful of Catherine and I know she loved her very much, at least to begin with. She was in fact a woman ahead of her time, who was very clever in the way she appealed to the king and the way the tudors did that was good as she did use her "weakness as a woman" to sway henrys anger as history would have it anyway.

I personally thought Kate parr was great, she was indeed a noble queen and it would seem she had no hidden agendas that would be used to her own gain, she was a reformer because she believed that the country would be better if everyone was able to read the bible and take communion and so forth, it was not about her gaining wealth or popularity
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