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pookiesmama |
Edward Tudor: Spoiled Brat?
Feb 28 2010, 9:40 PM EST
What will Edward Tudor be like? Will he be a brat? Will he be 'sickly"? Will Henry spoil him rotten? What kind of relationship will Edward have with Elizabeth? Mary? Will he favor one sister over the other? Who? I am wondering how Hirst will potray Edward this final season///How bout you?
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Elliemental |
1. RE: Edward Tudor: Spoiled Brat?
Mar 1 2010, 7:00 AM EST
Thats a bit harsh. Edward was a very self-restrained boy and totally aloof from everything going on around him. He favoured Elizabeth over Mary, they were much closer in age after all. Edward was very pious as well, from the sounds of things.However, he should not be shown as sickly. He was perfectly healthy until he contracted TB in his mid teens. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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pookiesmama |
2. RE: Edward Tudor: Spoiled Brat?
Mar 1 2010, 7:54 AM EST
I agree with you but who knows how Hirst will potray Edward? I was just wanting to see how everyone felt that the show would potray Edward.0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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3. RE: Edward Tudor: Spoiled Brat?
Mar 1 2010, 11:55 PM EST
"Thats a bit harsh. Edward was a very self-restrained boy and totally aloof from everything going on around him. He favoured Elizabeth over Mary, they were much closer in age after all. Edward was very pious as well, from the sounds of things.actually in his younger years, edward favored mary over elizabeth, only when he got to be about 10ish did he favor elizabeth more, i think he saw mary as more over a mother figure Do you find this valuable? |
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pookiesmama |
4. RE: Edward Tudor: Spoiled Brat?
Mar 2 2010, 4:15 AM EST
You are correct. Sometimes I forget stuff. I was watching the newest trailer and it shows Edward with a knife a gift from Henry. Henry seemed HAPPY that Edward seemed to have the knife at Henry's throat. OR am I mistaken
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Reggie19 |
5. RE: Edward Tudor: Spoiled Brat?
Mar 2 2010, 6:30 AM EST
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"You are correct. Sometimes I forget stuff. I was watching the newest trailer and it shows Edward with a knife a gift from Henry. Henry seemed HAPPY that Edward seemed to have the knife at Henry's throat. OR am I mistaken"I found that scene to be quite disturbing, i don't know, maybe i'm too sensible to grasp the concept of a four/five/six-year-old boy holding a knife to his father's throat, not to mention Henry actually giving him the knife in the first place. As if what he did to his pet falcon wasn't bad enough, now the child has been given a sharp utensil. Wonderful gift for a little boy that was presumed to have been a sociopath! 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Mar 2 2010, 6:42 AM EST
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"I found that scene to be quite disturbing, i don't know, maybe i'm too sensible to grasp the concept of a four/five/six-year-old boy holding a knife to his father's throat, not to mention Henry actually giving him the knife in the first place. As if what he did to his pet falcon wasn't bad enough, now the child has been given a sharp utensil. Wonderful gift for a little boy that was presumed to have been a sociopath!"Little boys like to play with knives and stuff. I don't find that disturbing at all. But where does this sociopath story come from? The falcon? His behavior there would have been considered perfectly normal, they had a much different view on animals than we do (sadly). I read a story about a teacher setting fire to a nest of baby rats in front of the a class of children in the 19th century. Even then everyone, including the kids and parents, thought this was harmless 'fun' and not disturbing at all. Therefore I think judging Edward's mental health by that falcon story through our modern eyes just leads to a misrepresentation of him. 0 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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7. RE: Edward Tudor: Spoiled Brat?
Mar 2 2010, 7:02 AM EST
"Therefore I think judging Edward's mental health by that falcon story through our modern eyes just leads to a misrepresentation of him."I'll agree with you where the falcon story is concerned, i was definitely viewing that through a 21st Century mindscope, but i still found the whole scene with the dagger a little strange. Sure, little boys like the play with knives and stuff, but you give them plastic or wooden swords. Not the real deal! Do you find this valuable? |
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Nofretete |
8. RE: Edward Tudor: Spoiled Brat?
Mar 2 2010, 7:09 AM EST
"I'll agree with you where the falcon story is concerned, i was definitely viewing that through a 21st Century mindscope, but i still found the whole scene with the dagger a little strange. Sure, little boys like the play with knives and stuff, but you give them plastic or wooden swords. Not the real deal!"Back then, they would take kids that age on hunts already (at least for very small and harmless 'game' like rabbits, I think) and let the kids kill it themselves (with a knife like that). So I think that knife would have been useless as a gift if it had been wooden. :-) It might seem strange to us today, but most children can handle a sharp object without killing or injuring themselves or someone else. I think that scene between Edward and Henry will end with them laughing. 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Reggie19 |
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Mar 2 2010, 7:15 AM EST
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I can understand wielding one in regards to animals, trust me i can, its hardly like they had all those anti-hunting activists that we have now back then, so that i can understand. Holding a knife to your father's throat on the other hand... that's lost on me. It reminded me of that scene between Brandon and his son, when the little boy stabbed his father in the stomach, or thought he had. That scene also gave me the wiggens!That being said i certainly hope that scene ends in laughter similar to the Brandon and Edward scene. Do you find this valuable? |
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Nofretete |
10. RE: Edward Tudor: Spoiled Brat?
Mar 2 2010, 7:36 AM EST
"I can understand wielding one in regards to animals, trust me i can, its hardly like they had all those anti-hunting activists that we have now back then, so that i can understand. Holding a knife to your father's throat on the other hand... that's lost on me. It reminded me of that scene between Brandon and his son, when the little boy stabbed his father in the stomach, or thought he had. That scene also gave me the wiggens!I totally get why that scene might look disturbing. :-) I just think it's taken out of context in that trailer and probably will be harmless when watched in full. It reminded me of that Brandon with his son scene, too! 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Reggie19 |
11. RE: Edward Tudor: Spoiled Brat?
Mar 2 2010, 7:53 AM EST
"I totally get why that scene might look disturbing. :-) I just think it's taken out of context in that trailer and probably will be harmless when watched in full. It reminded me of that Brandon with his son scene, too!"Yes, you could be right, the way it was played out in that trailer was too brief, and in its full capacity might just be a playful moment between father and son... at least i certainly hope so =P Do you find this valuable? |
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pookiesmama |
12. RE: Edward Tudor: Spoiled Brat?
Mar 5 2010, 11:46 AM EST
"Yes, you could be right, the way it was played out in that trailer was too brief, and in its full capacity might just be a playful moment between father and son... at least i certainly hope so =P "I hope so as well. I do hope also that they do not have Edward as a spoiled brat wasn't he a very serious child If memory serves?? 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Sep 19 2010, 11:20 PM EDT
"I'll agree with you where the falcon story is concerned, i was definitely viewing that through a 21st Century mindscope, but i still found the whole scene with the dagger a little strange. Sure, little boys like the play with knives and stuff, but you give them plastic or wooden swords. Not the real deal!"I never thought twice about that scene. In fact I thought it was absolutely touching. Henry was honoring his trust, and giving him something a future king needs to learn how to use and handle correctly. He was only a child, but they kept such a close guard on that boy, that I'm certain they took it away from him and let him keep it in a showcase. I also think a boy of five in those days was much more used to seeing weapons and had a greater understanding of danger. I LOVED that scene, as it showed Henry as a father, not a monster which is how he treated the girls. Since when was Edward a sociopath?? Do you find this valuable? |
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14. RE: Edward Tudor: Spoiled Brat?
Sep 22 2010, 9:16 AM EDT
Where did this story of him being a sociopath come from!!? Edward might be portrayed as a high and mighty boy coz he was kinda priggish in religious terms. But he should be portrayed as good person technically. And Edward always favoured Elizabeth over Mary coz she was only 4 years older and they shared the same household for a long time.
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I'mTheCheesecakeHere |
15. RE: Edward Tudor: Spoiled Brat?
Feb 17 2011, 3:12 PM EST
"Where did this story of him being a sociopath come from!!? Edward might be portrayed as a high and mighty boy coz he was kinda priggish in religious terms. But he should be portrayed as good person technically. And Edward always favoured Elizabeth over Mary coz she was only 4 years older and they shared the same household for a long time. "I think Edward favoured Bess over Mary because while Mary was a Catholic, Bess and Edward were Protestants. Also, on this Wiki I found out that as King, Edward bullied Mary about her beliefs. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
