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BoleynGirl13 |
1. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jun 22 2009, 3:14 PM EDT
I agree! Ben Barnes would be fantastic as Culpepper. He has an accent and charm that makes me swoon!!!
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RoyalDynasty666 |
2. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 8 2011, 2:39 PM EST
He has the looks and talent to play Culpepper. I also think Jim Sturgess would make a good one too.
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KingHenryVIII |
3. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 8 2011, 3:15 PM EST
Although I dont like culpepper, neither Torrance, I must say I think he's a perfect culpepper. I know Jim Sturgess, but I doubt he would be realistic as Culpepper, he just too much of a nice guy at least from what Ive seen from him. Torrance has that evil aura that culpepper needs as he was not a saint and known for his quarrels and raping actions.
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RoyalDynasty666 |
4. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 9 2011, 12:09 PM EST
Good point!
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I'mTheCheesecakeHere |
5. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 9 2011, 2:21 PM EST
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"Although I dont like culpepper, neither Torrance, I must say I think he's a perfect culpepper. I know Jim Sturgess, but I doubt he would be realistic as Culpepper, he just too much of a nice guy at least from what Ive seen from him. Torrance has that evil aura that culpepper needs as he was not a saint and known for his quarrels and raping actions."You do have a really good point there, if someone's gonna play Culpepper, their gonna have 'that evil aura'! 2 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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KingHenryVIII |
6. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 9 2011, 6:07 PM EST
Yes, that thrilling, piercing, evil, aura. That just makes him mysterious. Torrance had that. By seeing him at first you would have not thought he was like that, that innocent look he had in his eyes, words, hair, everything, but somehow you saw he was not like that at all inside.
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RoyalDynasty666 |
7. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 9 2011, 6:21 PM EST
He just looked to good to be true.
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SixQueensofHenryVIII |
8. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 9 2011, 8:59 PM EST
I like Torrance as Culpepper, he looked all lovely and boyish but those bright, piercing eyes of his made me feel uneasy. He could be charming, sleazy and sinister without even saying a word.
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lettice |
9. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 10 2011, 9:40 AM EST
"I like Torrance as Culpepper, he looked all lovely and boyish but those bright, piercing eyes of his made me feel uneasy. He could be charming, sleazy and sinister without even saying a word."Any portraits of Culpepper? What did he actually look like? 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
MsSquirrly |
10. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 10 2011, 10:18 AM EST
"Any portraits of Culpepper? What did he actually look like?"no....no surviving pictures of Culpepper but he was called a "beautiful youth". 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Shenandoan |
11. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 10 2011, 6:14 PM EST
"I like Torrance as Culpepper, he looked all lovely and boyish but those bright, piercing eyes of his made me feel uneasy. He could be charming, sleazy and sinister without even saying a word."My absolute favorites in The Tudors were Jonathan Rhys Meyers as King Henry and Torrance Coombs as Culpeper. They first caught my eye by their looks, but that is not enough to get really interested. Both gentlemen played their roles very good and made me curious about the history of the characters they performed. Talking about eyes: both Jonathan and Torrance have something special in their eyes. Henry Cavill (Charles Brandon) is also pretty good looking, but doesn't have that special look that makes JRM and Coombs outstanding. All very personal of course, taste differs. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
HeverRose |
12. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 10 2011, 6:48 PM EST
"no....no surviving pictures of Culpepper but he was called a "beautiful youth".He must have been hot for Catherine Howard to put herself in the danger she did by meeting up with him. I actually thought Coombs played the part in a somewhat morose manner...I really dont remember him smiling. I am not saying that this is bad...that might have been the appeal to a young girl..and for sure he played the part as more evil than I had always thought Culpepper was. Do you find this valuable? |
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Shenandoan |
13. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 11 2011, 3:31 PM EST
Unfortunately there is not very much information about Thomas Culpeper. What also played a role is the fact that his brother was also called Thomas and worked at the same at King Henry's Court, at Thomas Cromwells Office. There are records a Thomas is involved in some fights, there is also the case of the woman that was raped. The last fact is believed to be committed by "Catherines" Culpeper, but which Thomas is accountable for other facts is difficult to say.Apart from the above, I don't think you need to be an "evil" man to commit adultry with a young and tempting lady like Queen Catherine (supposed adultry was indeed committed). Given the circumstances I am not surprised something developed between Catherine and Thomas and though I am the last to say it is no point to deceive your husband, I can understand that certain things happened. She was a very young lady, married to, compared to her age, an old man that had lost the physical attraction he once had. If I see a painting of King Henry it is not exactly making me wish I was on an abandonned tropical island with him. And I am much older than Catherine was. Looking at the facts, she may have been guilty of betraying her husband, but I don't look at her as being guilty. I feel sorry for her. In a way I feel sorry for all three persons involved for I think King Henry was really fond of her and it was devastating to him to hear about the truth. Do you find this valuable? |
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HeverRose |
14. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 11 2011, 4:32 PM EST
As a lover of Catherine Howard, he would not be evil. I had read he was a rogue and in the series the rape scene really shocked me... ( and I am not easily shocked, being from New York!!) I also thought he was presented as a bit of a sociopath...someone with no consience, and that, of course, would be an attribute of someone who is considered 'evil."
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Shenandoan |
15. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 11 2011, 4:57 PM EST
The Thomas Culpeper who raped the woman, assumed to be "Catherines" Culpeper, also murdered a man. Not exactly a friendly type of person. I think the word evil is in the right place, connected with those deeds. I agree it is not something a conscious person would do. The only one he obviously cared about was himself, the feelings of other persons were of no interest to him. Did he alter in the years between that event and the moment he got involved with Katherine? I don't think so. People can change, but that is mostly a slow process and he was still rather young when he met Catherine. The question remains what his feelings for Catherine were. Maybe he fell in love with her, maybe she was just a pleasant distraction. Or a means to rise in power. I'm afraid we'll never know. Do you find this valuable? |
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HeverRose |
16. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 11 2011, 5:10 PM EST
you have to ask yourself: why did they show that rape scene? if you are a writer or creator of a show, why would you include that? It had to be to show something about him, his character. And to top it off, he raped the woman wearing the King's livery!!!!!! To me, that was an indication that he was not all mentally right, that he had no sense of right and wrong and therefore, the way he was presented, love was not an emotion he would be capable of.As for the real Culpepper, we can't know. Do you find this valuable? |
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Shenandoan |
17. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 11 2011, 5:44 PM EST
A miscommunication perhaps. I was talking about the real Culpeper.If the fact that he wore the Kings livery is historical correct I don't know. I am not sure what you mean with mentally right. No "normal" person would ever murder someone. What is "wrong" with murderers can't be said easily, I think. Personally I don't think that when you are capable of murder, it automatically means that you can't love someone else. There are so many facts that play a role in this process, Do you find this valuable? |
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HeverRose |
18. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 11 2011, 7:03 PM EST
Well the word "normal" is a loaded word because there is a wide range of human behavior that can be accounted for within patterns of what people are capable of, and that can be good and bad. The main difference between normal and abnormal, or mentally ill is the awareness of right and wrong. Most people, if they are going to commit a heinous crime would not want to be recognized or identified, unless they have the power to get away with it. No groom or footman is going to commit a calculated crime wearing the uniform that will identify them. Anyone who takes precautions before doing a foul deed, such as making sure they can't be recognized is showing that they know the difference between right and wrong. What shocked me with that scene with C ulpepper is that he did not care who knew. That showed either a delusion of invincibility, which is not normal, since most people are more protective of themselves, or that he is a sociopath, which means he has no consciousness of right and wrong.I thought it was a brilliant portrayal of Culpepper, actually, and one that offers a lot of food for thought. Do you find this valuable? |
Anne'sCurls |
19. RE: Thomas Culpepper
Jan 14 2011, 4:36 PM EST
I think they showed the rape scene because those in charge were not sympathetic to Thomas Culpepper. It seems like they were trying to make everyone involved in the debacle, Catherine, Jane, Francis and Thomas to be unlikable.
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