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Anne'sCurls
Anne'sCurls
Season 1
Mar 13 2009, 11:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 13 2009, 11:01 PM EDT
Anyone else re-watching season 1? I am and FINALLY Johnathan might be growing on me as Henry, MAYBE! 6  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    
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LittleMissBoleyn
LittleMissBoleyn
1. RE: Season 1
Mar 14 2009, 1:07 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 14 2009, 1:07 AM EDT
I am waiting till Sunday then I will watch an episode a day leading up to the premiere. ^_^ 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Conyle
Conyle
2. RE: Season 1
Mar 14 2009, 3:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 14 2009, 3:36 AM EDT
"Anyone else re-watching season 1? I am and FINALLY Johnathan might be growing on me as Henry, MAYBE!"
Wow! Glad to hear it. It will make watching the show that much more enjoyable for you!

What is it that you are seeing, would you say, that's starting to change your opinion?
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Honey-Beezz
Honey-Beezz
3. RE: Season 1
Mar 14 2009, 7:53 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 14 2009, 7:53 AM EDT
"Anyone else re-watching season 1? I am and FINALLY Johnathan might be growing on me as Henry, MAYBE!"
You are right!! At first,I thought no way is this Henry VIII; but,at the end of season two,I found myself thinking he may not look like Henry,but, boy,is he starting to act like Henry.
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karenofbethany
karenofbethany
4. RE: Season 1
Mar 14 2009, 5:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 14 2009, 5:33 PM EDT
Initially I fought watching the series altogether because it looked like a "Melrose Place" type of thing - the sexy promos. I fell in love with the Queens characters more than Henry's. I cant' fault JRM as much as the writers and directors for choosing to focus his character mostly on pursuing women when indeed he had more to think about. JRM has done a good job showing Henry's emotions, but sometimes the script is "Good Henry/Bad Henry" and doesn't explore much more of the character than his lust or his angry outbursts. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Maggie-AnneB.
Maggie-AnneB.
5. RE: Season 1
Mar 14 2009, 9:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 14 2009, 9:30 PM EDT
"Anyone else re-watching season 1? I am and FINALLY Johnathan might be growing on me as Henry, MAYBE!"
Oh my friend and I am right now! That season is the only season that I like Henry in. He looks so sweet and a little innocent. Anne Boleyn looks FIERCE!
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thetudors
thetudors
6. RE: Season 1
Apr 4 2011, 12:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 4 2011, 12:33 PM EDT
me and my friend are going to watch the tudors from the first episode to the last one. i loved Henry in series 2 and i loved his marriage to Anne.
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thorned_rose84
thorned_rose84
7. RE: Season 1
Apr 6 2011, 12:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2011, 12:54 AM EDT
This summer I will definately catch up on the first season-its where most of my men are ;)

Jrm didnt really grow on me til s3, when he sported the moustache, goatee, and slicked back hair.
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royalfalcon
royalfalcon
8. RE: Season 1
Apr 6 2011, 5:50 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 19 2011, 10:38 AM EDT
"This summer I will definately catch up on the first season-its where most of my men are ;)

Jrm didnt really grow on me til s3, when he sported the moustache, goatee, and slicked back hair."
To me Jonathan has been wonderful since episode 1 of the very first Season and remained so until the end... Even when they aged him they could not detract from his good looks..
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Lady_Amber
Lady_Amber
9. RE: Season 1
Dec 28 2011, 6:23 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2011, 6:23 PM EST
Me :)

I'm currently on season 3 & poor Jane has just died.
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freya9
freya9
10. RE: Season 1
Dec 29 2011, 7:56 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 7:56 AM EST
I got Season 4 for christmas and watched it over two nights. My husband had only seen parts of the other series so we will be starting from season one in the new year. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
howardfan
howardfan
11. RE: Season 1
Feb 26 2012, 10:57 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2012, 10:57 PM EST
I found that KOA was portrayed very saint like in season one.
According to books I have read (for one, the book A tudor conspiraracy by joanna denny) there was no mention of KOA faking a pregnancy and miscarriage which she apparently did do in a desperate attempt to keep henrys affections but it would seem the show did not want to portray her as anything but near perfect.
I loved maria doyle kennedy as KOA and felt really sad when she died but her unwavering strength and constant love was shown 100% of the time and it would appear nothing she did was wrong even though that is not the case.

Even jane seymour was disliked by many after annes execution, she was seen as a social climber and she was the most favoured of all queens in henrys mind but she was not without fault

I just found it frustrating that Anne boleyn was the only queen shown to have any flaws :( she was strong in her belief's and did a lot of good for the country
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ladyfraidy
ladyfraidy
12. RE: Season 1
Feb 27 2012, 11:34 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 27 2012, 11:34 AM EST
"I found that KOA was portrayed very saint like in season one.
According to books I have read (for one, the book A tudor conspiraracy by joanna denny) there was no mention of KOA faking a pregnancy and miscarriage which she apparently did do in a desperate attempt to keep henrys affections but it would seem the show did not want to portray her as anything but near perfect.
I loved maria doyle kennedy as KOA and felt really sad when she died but her unwavering strength and constant love was shown 100% of the time and it would appear nothing she did was wrong even though that is not the case.

Even jane seymour was disliked by many after annes execution, she was seen as a social climber and she was the most favoured of all queens in henrys mind but she was not without fault

I just found it frustrating that Anne boleyn was the only queen shown to have any flaws :( she was strong in her belief's and did a lot of good for the country"
Perhaps if the series had told the whole story from the beginning as it advertised. we could have seen warts and all about KOA. But as it was it started like all the others with the drama of Anne B. Folks who didn't know any of the history probably thought KOA was just a pious stick in the mud compared with this firey other woman.
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juliana-angela
juliana-angela
13. RE: Season 1
Feb 27 2012, 2:17 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 27 2012, 2:17 PM EST
"I found that KOA was portrayed very saint like in season one.
According to books I have read (for one, the book A tudor conspiraracy by joanna denny) there was no mention of KOA faking a pregnancy and miscarriage which she apparently did do in a desperate attempt to keep henrys affections but it would seem the show did not want to portray her as anything but near perfect.
I loved maria doyle kennedy as KOA and felt really sad when she died but her unwavering strength and constant love was shown 100% of the time and it would appear nothing she did was wrong even though that is not the case."
I don't think that Katherine ever faked a pregnancy or miscarriage.

Maybe you are thinking of Katherine's first pregnancy in 1510? She miscarried in January, but her stomach was still swollen and her doctors thought that she had been carrying twins and was still pregnant. Although she then started menstruating, Katherine and Henry seem to have clung to the hope that she would still produce a child and she even went into seclusion to await the birth. By May, her figure has returned to normal (it is likely that she had been suffering from an infection), and the royal couple found the whole matter rather embarrassing. Katherine covered this by giving the misleading impression in a letter that she had miscarried in May rather than January - which has been seized on by historians as evidence that she could bend the truth when it suited her.

However, as this event occurred seven years or so before the period covered by the series, it is not surprising that it wasn't shown.
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ladyfraidy
ladyfraidy
14. RE: Season 1
Feb 27 2012, 8:05 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 27 2012, 8:05 PM EST
"I don't think that Katherine ever faked a pregnancy or miscarriage.

Maybe you are thinking of Katherine's first pregnancy in 1510? She miscarried in January, but her stomach was still swollen and her doctors thought that she had been carrying twins and was still pregnant. Although she then started menstruating, Katherine and Henry seem to have clung to the hope that she would still produce a child and she even went into seclusion to await the birth. By May, her figure has returned to normal (it is likely that she had been suffering from an infection), and the royal couple found the whole matter rather embarrassing. Katherine covered this by giving the misleading impression in a letter that she had miscarried in May rather than January - which has been seized on by historians as evidence that she could bend the truth when it suited her.

However, as this event occurred seven years or so before the period covered by the series, it is not surprising that it wasn't shown."
Poor Katherine. She was pregnant so many times, I doubt she needed to fake anything. How many times was she pregnant? I read 6, but also heard 10 which sounds false.
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juliana-angela
juliana-angela
15. RE: Season 1
Feb 28 2012, 3:13 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 28 2012, 3:13 PM EST
"Poor Katherine. She was pregnant so many times, I doubt she needed to fake anything. How many times was she pregnant? I read 6, but also heard 10 which sounds false.
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Six is the number usually given, but there was a probable seventh pregnancy in 1513 which is mentioned by David Starkey in his 'Six Wives'.

Ten certainly seems too high!
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howardfan
howardfan
16. RE: Season 1
Mar 2 2012, 12:56 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2012, 12:56 AM EST
"I don't think that Katherine ever faked a pregnancy or miscarriage.

Maybe you are thinking of Katherine's first pregnancy in 1510? She miscarried in January, but her stomach was still swollen and her doctors thought that she had been carrying twins and was still pregnant. Although she then started menstruating, Katherine and Henry seem to have clung to the hope that she would still produce a child and she even went into seclusion to await the birth. By May, her figure has returned to normal (it is likely that she had been suffering from an infection), and the royal couple found the whole matter rather embarrassing. Katherine covered this by giving the misleading impression in a letter that she had miscarried in May rather than January - which has been seized on by historians as evidence that she could bend the truth when it suited her.

However, as this event occurred seven years or so before the period covered by the series, it is not surprising that it wasn't shown."
nope I was just going by what joanna denny had written in her book which is actually based on katherine howard but mentioned KOA's extreme behaviour in order to keep henrys interest.

I have been watching Series one and am thoroughly enjoying it and liked very much how maria doyle kennedy was fluent in spanish with mendoza and chapyus it made it feel alot more authentic and I do admire MDK's portrayal however as other members on this forum had mentioned, I doubt the words "bastard" and "*****" would have been in Katherines vocabulary
she often referred to Henry Richmond (fitzroy) as a "Bastard" son and she snapped at Anne, calling her an "expensive *****" I thought katherine was much more staunch and strict in her belief's to use such language as was her daughter mary who referred to anne as a harlot and elizabeth as a bastard too, its most likely an out of character thing for them to do even if they were hurting and feeling betrayed. Language like that was not thrown around day to day like it is now, I mean surely it existed but I did find season one the use of such foul words including the dreaded C word C**T and F**CK were used by wolsey and henry and brandon.
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juliana-angela
juliana-angela
17. RE: Season 1
Mar 2 2012, 4:09 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2012, 4:13 PM EST
I don't think that Joanna Denny is regarded as a very reliable historian. No other writer that I know of, including her most recent biographer Giles Tremlett, has suggested that Katherine invented a pregnancy. I would therefore take the suggestion with a pinch of salt.

Bastard in the sense of illegitimate was commonly used in the sixteenth century as a factual description so Katherine may well have used it. I don't know what the other word is because of the asterisks, but if it is wh***, that was also used as literally at the time. Both f.**k and c*** are very old words which would have been been used descriptively but not as expletives in the Tudor age. The use of the latter was thought very vulgar but the former wasn't considered particularly rude then.
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howardfan
howardfan
18. RE: Season 1
Mar 5 2012, 4:53 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 5 2012, 4:53 PM EST
"I don't think that Joanna Denny is regarded as a very reliable historian. No other writer that I know of, including her most recent biographer Giles Tremlett, has suggested that Katherine invented a pregnancy. I would therefore take the suggestion with a pinch of salt.

Bastard in the sense of illegitimate was commonly used in the sixteenth century as a factual description so Katherine may well have used it. I don't know what the other word is because of the asterisks, but if it is wh***, that was also used as literally at the time. Both f.**k and c*** are very old words which would have been been used descriptively but not as expletives in the Tudor age. The use of the latter was thought very vulgar but the former wasn't considered particularly rude then."
I still do not think katherine of aragon or her daughter would have used that type of language.
Also, howcome the duke of norfolk was only in season one? he played a vital role in anne boleyns rise and obviously with katherine howard too
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