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funrod6
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Episode 1
Sep 19 2008, 12:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 19 2008, 12:54 PM EDT
My Lord I stayed up until 4am watching. Now Im up again on episode 8. I have a new found appreciation for some historical people, whilst in the show. I so despise Cardinal Wosely. Can someone tell me why he always had something up to his nose ? The smell ? Do you find this valuable?    
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SemperEadem
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1. RE: Episode 1
Sep 19 2008, 1:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 19 2008, 1:13 PM EDT
Ah, Wolsey. Sam Neill's portrayal was wonderful, I thought. Wolsey has a very high opinion of himself and high ambitions, as you have noticed (it does give him the appearance of having something up his nose, doesn't it?). Of course, he is basically running the country at this time. The Henry of season 1 is very different than the Henry of Season 2. In 1, Wolsey plays a heavy hand in what goes on while Henry more or less gets to play when he wants to. Henry comes more into his own as Season 1 goes on, and the result is Season 2, with a Henry who has very nearly realized his full power.

And, he was a person who had risen very high for his time. He was only the son of a commoner, a point he reminisces on in Season 1. So I suppose he felt he had to prove himself.
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funrod6
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2. RE: Episode 1
Sep 19 2008, 1:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 19 2008, 1:20 PM EDT
"Ah, Wolsey. Sam Neill's portrayal was wonderful, I thought. Wolsey has a very high opinion of himself and high ambitions, as you have noticed (it does give him the appearance of having something up his nose, doesn't it?). Of course, he is basically running the country at this time. The Henry of season 1 is very different than the Henry of Season 2. In 1, Wolsey plays a heavy hand in what goes on while Henry more or less gets to play when he wants to. Henry comes more into his own as Season 1 goes on, and the result is Season 2, with a Henry who has very nearly realized his full power.

And, he was a person who had risen very high for his time. He was only the son of a commoner, a point he reminisces on in Season 1. So I suppose he felt he had to prove himself."
Yes the nose thing, it well I thought either he is always sick, or the smell foul lol. Maybe from his own smell. And yes I can see very much so since I watched season 2 how Henry seeks the advise and power so much like a very young man. And in season 2 no longer a cub but a mighty lion.
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lettice
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3. RE: Episode 1
Sep 19 2008, 2:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 19 2008, 2:59 PM EDT
"My Lord I stayed up until 4am watching. Now Im up again on episode 8. I have a new found appreciation for some historical people, whilst in the show. I so despise Cardinal Wosely. Can someone tell me why he always had something up to his nose ? The smell ?"
Sam Neil is fabulous as Wolsey. He did walk around with a pomader to keep evil smells away. People tended not to bathe back then.
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funrod6
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4. RE: Episode 1
Sep 19 2008, 4:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 19 2008, 4:18 PM EDT
"Sam Neil is fabulous as Wolsey. He did walk around with a pomader to keep evil smells away. People tended not to bathe back then."
he did do a great job.
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howardfan
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5. RE: Episode 1
Sep 19 2008, 7:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 19 2008, 7:37 PM EDT
"he did do a great job."
yes i think he portrayed wolsey well, and in later years wolsey was known to have indulged himself in court life, and gained weight, so he waddled somewhat, i think sam neil played that part well . whilst he was not fat, he strutted around like an overfed pampered toad of the court and henry did indeed look to him for everything.

i do not think that wolsey was really guilty as such, from what i have read...
He was a yes man to the king and had no serious courage of his convictions like More or KOA and was not loyal to the pope but he had alot of enemies as did all who grew closer to the king, rising up from nothing and persuading his majesty into the lifestyles for their own gain, like Cromwell.

After cromwell, the king promised himself he would never be swayed by opinion of others again!!!!
He also stated something similar after wolsey's death, but in the book im reading it claims he did have moments of nostalgia toward Thomas wolsey
as he did for Thomas more, he would remember good things about both, and even came to blame anne for their downfalls.
Especially thomas more, who really did nothing wrong atall other than stick to his faith and disagree with the kings desire to be head of the church
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funrod6
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6. RE: Episode 1
Sep 19 2008, 8:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 19 2008, 8:52 PM EDT
"yes i think he portrayed wolsey well, and in later years wolsey was known to have indulged himself in court life, and gained weight, so he waddled somewhat, i think sam neil played that part well . whilst he was not fat, he strutted around like an overfed pampered toad of the court and henry did indeed look to him for everything.

i do not think that wolsey was really guilty as such, from what i have read...
He was a yes man to the king and had no serious courage of his convictions like More or KOA and was not loyal to the pope but he had alot of enemies as did all who grew closer to the king, rising up from nothing and persuading his majesty into the lifestyles for their own gain, like Cromwell.

After cromwell, the king promised himself he would never be swayed by opinion of others again!!!!
He also stated something similar after wolsey's death, but in the book im reading it claims he did have moments of nostalgia toward Thomas wolsey
as he did for Thomas more, he would remember good things about both, and even came to blame anne for their downfalls.
Especially thomas more, who really did nothing wrong atall other than stick to his faith and disagree with the kings desire to be head of the church"
I think I find so much admiration in Thomas More. I would so have signed the oath whether I agree'd to it or not. In my heart I would have felt God knew my true intentions and that my children needed me. But he put God first before all other Kings. The only King he answered to was our Lord. I will purchase the book about him as soon as it is released in the US. Right now Im working on the Constant Princess, the Rise and Fall of AB and Elizabeth 1. As well as a fictional series about vampires lol. So I shall be reading for quite sometime. But the constant princess and the Rise and Fall of AB I must finish reading because those are from the library,
Next up will be the Boleyn Inheritence.
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