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Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 3 2008, 12:00 AM EDT
Ok since there havent been all six queens on the tudors yet, who is your favourite of Queens or one you read the most about? know the most about or are interested the most in?The most popular seems to be Anne boleyn on the internet, largely due to her controversial role in british history, so many rumours, stories and saddness are associated with her. My most interesting queen is katherine howard, as so much is hard to find on her. I also am keen to learn as much about Katherine parr as possible as i admire her courage, she was arrested during her time with henry for her affiliation with the reformation thus causing a scandal but it is beleived a good friend tipped her off so to speak, Henry had issued her with a warning to keep her place, but she did not stop and wrote many compelling articles and had great writing skills. 7 out of 16 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Shadow_in_the_Sun |
1. RE: Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 3 2008, 1:42 PM EDT
I am most fascinated by Anne Boleyn, and it's always been that way since I was little. But I also like Anne of Cleves, Katherine Howard, Katherine Parr... I admire Catherine of Aragon but she's not my favourite.To be honest, the only wife I'm not too fussed about is Jane Seymour. I don't hate her, but I just don't find her particularly interesting - I can't relate to her in any way whatsoever. Those wily brothers of hers, though... that's a different story! 5 out of 11 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Jes89 |
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Sep 3 2008, 1:52 PM EDT
i admire Anne boleyn and KOA, i can say that they are my favorite queens.but there's something about Katherine Howard, that fascinates me. 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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howardfan |
3. RE: Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 3 2008, 7:48 PM EDT
"i admire Anne boleyn and KOA, i can say that they are my favorite queens.yeah there is something about K howard that is interesting, and also sad that there is the least information on her and anne of cleves as starkey has mentioned. Where as with KOA and Anne b there is a feild of info whether true or not lol and there is sufficient info on jane seymour although she was not very influencial so i see her as my least favourite of queens, also because she usurped annes crown 3 out of 8 found this valuable. Do you? |
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MadameDeMerteuil |
4. RE: Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 4 2008, 6:09 AM EDT
That's a tough one. I like more than one queen, for different reasons.Anne Boleyn is my first - wit, opinions, personnality, courage. She's the only queen who truly impressed Henry Katherine of Aragon is my number 2 - for the dignity she showed in her misfortunes Katherine Parr - for the wisdom, interest in humanities/learning/etc, and the calming influence on Henry's familiy circle. She also had the guts to stand up to him. Anne of Cleves must have been clever...she got the best deal of all of them. Would love to know more about her I also really dislike Jane Seymour. Maybe I'm wrong but i see her as a false person who was hiding ambition underneath a mask of perpetual sweetness and innocence. I also see her as a not too brilliant intellectually and that's a big fault in my book...;) 5 out of 11 found this valuable. Do you? |
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howardfan |
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Sep 4 2008, 6:22 AM EDT
"That's a tough one. I like more than one queen, for different reasons.i share your opnion completelty regarding jane seymour ives and starkey do not paint a picture of a timid young angel, nor do they harshly critizise but nothing is mentioned of jane seymour being a saint liek marytr, she did not do anything that leaves an impression on history, other than having a male issue who later died... her older brothers were more influencal lol if a little brash the one thing i thought amazing about jane is how she escaped the fate of the axe or exile, but that is most likely because henrys passions had not wained and he had not yet fallen for the young mistress howard, had jane lived she would have been cast aside eventually but not beheaded as she did give henry his most wanted posession a son, who did not die instantly 3 out of 12 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Tudorprincess |
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Sep 4 2008, 6:48 AM EDT
My favourite wife is Jane Seymour. She was kind and not as much as a doormat that everyone thinks she is. She was key in bringing Princess Mary back to court after all those years of mistreatment. She also stood up for the rebels of the Pilgrimage of Grace. That’s pretty brave to me, and although it failed, it shows Jane had opinions and tried to stand up for them, and Henry knocked her down. I don’t blame her for backing down. She had seen what he had done to his first two wives, I think any of us would have done the same if you knew you had the chance of losing your head. Jane was also quite smart considering she wasn’t educated (which wasn’t her fault). She knew how to win the King (using Anne‘s own methods), knew how to act (he wanted a submissive Queen). She even made her ladies dress more modestly so that they couldn’t catch Henry’s eye. She had good common sense. I think she was biding her time and we could have seen a totally different Jane after she had Edward. If she had lived, she would have been a great queen. Even David Starkey thinks this. After Jane its Catherine Parr. She was a good woman and mother, as well as being intelligent and educated. She finished off where Jane started and brought Henry’s family back together. 14 out of 19 found this valuable. Do you? |
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KatherineOfAragon |
7. RE: Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 4 2008, 9:49 AM EDT
My favourite queen was Catalina de Castilla y Aragona aka Katehrine of AragonI think she was very strong she was not only a good wife but since she grew up on a battlefield she was ready and prepared to stand ev'ry kind of emrgency..even politically.. 15 out of 19 found this valuable. Do you? |
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8. RE: Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 4 2008, 9:52 AM EDT
My favourite Queen is Katherine Of Aragon, for her intelligence, dignity and bravery.
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angelsun |
9. RE: Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 4 2008, 4:44 PM EDT
My favorite would be Anne Boleyn for her spirit. She was probably the quintessential rebel of her time--in her looks (not being the atypical desired fair), dress (French-inspired) and ideas--when women had limited options. My hat is also off to any woman who can keep a man dangling for six years and gets him to upturn the entire kingdom in order to marry her. Has that feat been accomplished before or since?Second choice would be Katherine of Aragon for her physical beauty and beauty of character. She was the embodiment of a true lady and deserved better. As for the others, Henry was probably so OVERLY focused upon having a son that the ability to reproduce male children probably became the chief criterion~not particularly wise if one wants to obtain a quality wife or queen. Of course, wives seemed to be viewed as disposable commodities that could be replaced on a whim. "Off with her head!" Yikes! 10 out of 15 found this valuable. Do you? |
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10. RE: Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 4 2008, 5:34 PM EDT
My favorite is Queen Anne Boleyn, she was an awesome woman for me, but also i like Queen Katherine of Aragon, they are my favorites, the only one thato don´t like is JS
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11. RE: Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 6 2008, 9:56 AM EDT
My favorite would be Catherine of Aragon. She is devout Catholic. A loving and devoted wife to Henry. She is everything a good person should be. I can't htink of any reason someone would not like her.
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elizabeth11 |
12. RE: Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 6 2008, 11:42 AM EDT
"That's a tough one. I like more than one queen, for different reasons.agree with you a 100% about Jane, fell the same way about her!!!! 6 out of 19 found this valuable. Do you? |
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heverhoney |
13. RE: Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 6 2008, 5:54 PM EDT
I really don't have a favorite persay...there are things to admire and admonish about all 6! Of course, tradgedy begets its own level of interest, and in that respect I'd say that I am most facinated by the 2 Queens Henry had executed: Anne Boleyn and Katherine Howard. Although each of their stories could stand alone, it's considering them as a collective and their common bond by way of marriage to a most notorious monarch that has me addicted!
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LadyKatta |
14. RE: Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 9 2008, 11:58 AM EDT
"My favourite queen was Catalina de Castilla y Aragona aka Katehrine of AragonKatherine it's my favourite too. I totally agree with you. 6 out of 9 found this valuable. Do you? |
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lunchsgirl11 |
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Sep 9 2008, 3:49 PM EDT
I love Catherine of Aragon ,she is my favorite ,she was a strong queen and wife..even when Henry told her to leave,she never stopped trying to get him back.
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howardfan |
16. RE: Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 9 2008, 6:28 PM EDT
"I love Catherine of Aragon ,she is my favorite ,she was a strong queen and wife..even when Henry told her to leave,she never stopped trying to get him back. "apparently if you look online the two most popular queens are the first two but i find all 6 interesting in their own way 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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funrod6 |
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Sep 9 2008, 7:40 PM EDT
"My favourite wife is Jane Seymour. She was kind and not as much as a doormat that everyone thinks she is. She was key in bringing Princess Mary back to court after all those years of mistreatment. She also stood up for the rebels of the Pilgrimage of Grace. That’s pretty brave to me, and although it failed, it shows Jane had opinions and tried to stand up for them, and Henry knocked her down. I don’t blame her for backing down. She had seen what he had done to his first two wives, I think any of us would have done the same if you knew you had the chance of losing your head. Jane was also quite smart considering she wasn’t educated (which wasn’t her fault). She knew how to win the King (using Anne‘s own methods), knew how to act (he wanted a submissive Queen). She even made her ladies dress more modestly so that they couldn’t catch Henry’s eye. She had good common sense. I think she was biding her time and we could have seen a totally different Jane after she had Edward. If she had lived, she would have been a great queen. Even David Starkey thinks this.I so agree about Jane.....I think people under estimate her strength. And are all too often to use harsh words. I believe it is mostly because of Anne B. I think if Catherine Parr, or anyone else would have been the wife right after AB people would be saying the same things. 9 out of 11 found this valuable. Do you? |
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howardfan |
18. RE: Your favourtie Queen (in real life not from the tudors)
Sep 9 2008, 7:49 PM EDT
"I so agree about Jane.....I think people under estimate her strength. And are all too often to use harsh words. I believe it is mostly because of Anne B. I think if Catherine Parr, or anyone else would have been the wife right after AB people would be saying the same things."possibly, but catherine parr was protestant, so she has my vote ^-^ the more i read about jane, the more i admit i was wrong in my assumptions of her being useless in history she did fight in her own way for her beleifs and even provoked the pilgramige of grace, which saw the burning of many heretics and in turn the desecration of even more monastaries and abbeys, (syon in particular) while her plan backfired, she displayed immense courage and was close to being accused of treason along with her supporters and followers of Mary tudor... Had mary not been loyal to jane and basically said what her father wanted to hear at the time of the accusation, that her father was indeed head of the supreme church of england, and that she was illegitimate, Jane could very well have been placed in the tower The bond Jane shared with Mary must have been pretty strong for her to display such loyalty Mary saw that and in turn displayed kindess to the woman who was fighting to have her reinstated in court as heiress offcourse this was all before jane fell pregnant and had the "SON" that henry had desired for over thirty years but before that, how secure was Jane seymour as queen? starkeys book puts that when jane faught to have mary reinstated, the king became slightly aggitated with these demands, and after the pilgramage failed, he instructed her to keep quiet and not provoke any more uprising, unlike Anne, Jane listened and kept quiet! While i still admire annes courage and bravery feel jane played her cards right in truth i would have done the same 2 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Sep 9 2008, 7:51 PM EDT
"Ok since there havent been all six queens on the tudors yet, who is your favourite of Queens or one you read the most about? know the most about or are interested the most in?My favorite Queen is COA - I believe her to have been the strongest. She was from another country sought out to be the Queen of England. She endoured horrible actions by Henrys father. Henry did not have to marry her, he wanted to marry her. He loved her and she loved him. But Henry loved himself more than anyone. She was discarded like nothing. Her daughter withheld from her. And through it all she stayed strong in her faith. Something so lacking throughout time. She also had forgiveness in her heart. Again how many could say that after going through everything she did, that she would profess her love to her God,Her husband, her child and then forgive Henry and ask for mercy on his soul ? I also like Jane Seymour. I greatly admire her efforts in bringing Mary back. And although she was not Queen for long, I believe she would have been loved by the people just as COA was. Now...I know Im gonna probably offend some AB fans here. But I understand she was a woman before her time. But I do not admire much about her. She became just as hungry for power, not just a pawn for her family. And the idea that she found happiness in the misery of what COA and Mary endured disgusts me. Literally. I do not find this A quality to look up to. Was she strong yes. Ive promised to read more about her. And maybe someday I can view her differently. 8 out of 13 found this valuable. Do you? |