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| littleone15 | Roland de Veleville | 8 | Today, 6:23 PM EST by littleone15 | ||||
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I am curious as to what other people think: Was Sir Roland de Velville (de Velevill, de Veleville) really King Henry VII's illegitimate son, and half-brother to Henry VIII, or do you side with S.B. Chrimes that he was not?
I am on the side that he was. Looking at the concepts and opinions that Professor Chrimes uses as evidence, there are many, many holes. He seems to have used incorrect dates and locations, and some faulty arguments. Him, and his supporters and some historians that use him as a source, even have the incorrect battle in which he was knighted! One of the ones that sticks with me is the argument that, had he been a half-brother to Henry VIII, his granddaughter Katherine Tudor of Berain would have been a cousin to Queen Elizabeth I, and when Katherine's eldest son Thomas Salisbury (Salusbury) was implicated as part of the Babington plot, Elizabeth would have never executed him because he would have been kin. I think even the people who just watch the show and don't know the history can pull that theory apart! Him being kin to the Queen made him a bigger target, not a smaller one! I think that he was made constable of Beaumaris castle in Wales, was a servant of the body to Henry VIII, as well as was generally accepted as Henry VII's son in their time and until 1967 it was never questioned, all proves a royal bastard. Anyone else's thoughts? I would love to hear something from either side of the fence. This hits me deep, because he's one of my great-great-great-(etc.)-grandfathers. If he was illegitimate but still blood, that makes King Henry VIII one of my great-uncles. Being a descendant of a Tudor is cool to begin with (and Katherine of Berain's father was a Welsh Tudor anyway), but having to guess and pick through the differing historian's opinions can be either enlightening or upsetting.
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| willsomers | Henry's parents | 15 | Today, 1:35 AM EST by littleone15 | ||||
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Thread started: May 31 2010, 3:49 PM EDT
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I think Henry V111 must have been a one-off other than his six wives as Henry V11, was nothing like henry who seemed a very forgiving man, sent hardly anyone to the block even his pretenders eg simnel and warbeck, but his mother Elizabeth tudor who I think was a more forceful and short tempered person may not have been so lenient, if not kept in line by her husband , so perhaps henry took after her?
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| QueenAnnaBoleyn | 13th February | 12 | Thursday, 9:00 PM EST by KatherynHoward | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 13 2012, 4:45 AM EST
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On the 13th February (today) 1542, Kathryn Howard was executed- 13th February is my birthday and I always say a prayer for her, and i was wondering who else's birthday is on days where somebody got executed?
Thanks :)
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| LNor19 | Catherine Parr's pregnancy | 5 | Thursday, 2:42 PM EST by freya9 | ||||
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Thread started: Jan 17 2009, 4:12 AM EST
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Catherine Parr had one child, a daughter named Anne with Thomas Seymour. However Cate had been married three times before, we know why she and Henry didn't produce any children, but is there any explanation why she didn't have any children during her first two marriages? I've always found that odd.
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| FrancePetre | today died Elisabeth of York , How close was henri to his mother ? | 1 | Feb 11 2012, 2:10 PM EST by freya9 | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 11 2012, 9:02 AM EST
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I remember in the series , at the death of Jane Seymoure , Henri mentions that his mother died of "childbed fever" too .. anyone knows how close was Henri to his mother and if he moarned her a lot ?
I know that she died when he was
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| ElizabethWoodville | Not Tudor but Plantagenet | 11 | Feb 9 2012, 4:36 PM EST by mmoore27 | ||||
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Thread started: Oct 25 2011, 1:59 PM EDT
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I'm specifically direct descended from Edward IV and his wife Elizabeth Woodville through their daighter Catherine and from most of the Yorkist Nobility.
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| QueenAnnaBoleyn | Mark Smeaton Torture? | 9 | Feb 9 2012, 8:35 AM EST by freya9 | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 4 2012, 4:13 AM EST
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In the series, it is shown that Mark is very severely tortured and in several other sources it says he was tortured also. However I read somewhere else that he had no mark upon him when he was brought to the scaffold. So, out if pure curiosity, does anybody know if he was tortured or not?
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| FrancePetre | yes found something | 11 | Feb 8 2012, 11:11 PM EST by MsSquirrly | ||||
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Thread started: Jan 23 2012, 5:53 AM EST
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Catherine gave birth to her only child — a daughter, Mary Seymour, named after Catherine's stepdaughter Mary on 30 August 1548, and died only six days later, on 5 September 1548, at Sudeley Castle in Gloucestershire, from what is thought to be puerperal fever or puerperal sepsis, also called childbed fever. Coincidentally, this was also the illness that killed Henry's third wife, Jane Seymour. It was not uncommon, due to the lack of hygiene around childbirth. Nevertheless, a theory exists that Catherine's husband, Sir Thomas Seymour, may have poisoned her in order to carry out his plan to marry Lady Elizabeth Tudor.
Mary was left a destitute orphan in the care of Katherine Willoughby Duchess of Suffolk, who appears to have resented this imposition[1]. After 1550 Mary disappears from historical record completely, leading to the conclusion that she did not live past the age of two however some historian believe she did live into adulthood :-)
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| mmoore27 | Related to the Tudors | 0 | Feb 8 2012, 2:24 PM EST by mmoore27 | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 8 2012, 2:24 PM EST
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I am not directly related to the tudor line, but my 25th great grand father was Henry III, son to King John younger brother of King Richard. For the Tudor line, King Henry VIII is my 7th cousin 14 times removed
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| BanditQueen1 | Lady Bessie Blount as the King's Mistress | 3 | Feb 8 2012, 1:56 PM EST by HeverRose | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 7 2012, 9:42 PM EST
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Elizabeth and her sister, Lady Elizabeth Carew, wife of Nicholas Carew, were both ladies in waiting to Catherine of Aragon and both may have caught both the eye of King Henry and of Charles Brandon, who was a friend of both ladies as early as 1512. In a letter to King Henry, Brandon commends his affection to the two ladies. There is some suggestion that Brandon introduced Bessie to Henry and that in fact he had tried her out first and commended her skills to the king. Whether or not this is true, Henry had certainly begun a relationship with Bessie by 1514. It is not known how long it lasted but eight years seems too long, given that her son, Henry Fitzroy was born in 1519, but six years or even seven is possible as Henry does not seem to have cut off his relationship after the birth of his son.
Henry visited Bessie and his son often and the relationship does not officially end until 1522 when Bessie got married. Henry was keen to ensure that she had a good husband and she was well provided for by all three husbands. Bessie was also well connected in other ways, being a neighbour of Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk through his Lincolnshire estates and a close association with his fourth wife was formed, both through marriage and through friendship and her place at court. He also maintained a friendship with Bessie most of his life. Bessie may have been a lady in waiting to Anne of Cleves, but it could only have been for a very short time as she died some time in 1540. Her son by Henry died of consumption in 1536 and was buried with the Howard family as he had married the daughter of the Duke of Norfolk, Mary. He was buried at the abbey in Telford but he was moved to the Framlington later on. The marriage was childless. Unlikely that she was replaced by Mary Boleyn: the relationship had long ended by 1522 as it just faded out.
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| LadyTudorsFan | My Tudor Blog | 7 | Feb 7 2012, 10:03 PM EST by poncianito | ||||
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Thread started: Jan 11 2012, 5:16 PM EST
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Check out my sub-blog that I have created under The Tudor Blog called "Secrets and Lies"!
http://www.thetudorswiki.com/page/Secrets+and+Lies
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| royalfalcon | R I P Henry VIII | 3 | Jan 29 2012, 7:48 AM EST by freya9 | ||||
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Thread started: Jan 28 2012, 1:49 PM EST
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I must admit I had forgotten it was the anniversary of Henry's death until something on facebook jogged my memory. On this day in 1547 King Henry departed this life. He was at Whitehall Palace.having sent his family away. He requested that Thomas Cranmer be with him when he died. When Cranmer arrived he found that the King had lost the power of speech. Cranmer asked Henry to press his hand if he died in the faith of Christ which the King did.
On this day in history a true colossus departed from this earth Henry was larger than life in every way not just his mighty girth!!
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| FrancePetre | Did elisabeth remember or regretted anne boleyn? | 7 | Jan 27 2012, 3:35 PM EST by freya9 | ||||
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Thread started: Jan 25 2012, 8:05 AM EST
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I am watching David Starkey documentaries and he mentionned that Elisabeth had cast away anne boleyn from her mind ... is that true ? or did she admire or feel sorry for her mother ?
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| offwithherhead | "The Shadow of the Tower" | 4 | Jan 22 2012, 1:03 PM EST by aparadiso | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 22 2011, 1:39 PM EST
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I have recently purchased a DVD set of a BBC mini series from the 70's called "The Shadow of the Tower". It was mentioned in an older thread by Juliana-Angela, so I went looking for it. As it would happen, it was just released in Canada in January this year.
It is about the life of Henry VII from the time of his taking the English throne. I am only on the first disc, but I must say that I am quite impressed. It is good to see something on film about Henry VIII's father. The actor that plays Henry VII really resembles the portrait of Henry VII that we all know here. I think the story of the "first" Tudor monarch is well portrayed in this series. Hope some of you get an opportunity to check it out.
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| RHatch89 | I am a direct descendant of Henry VIII | 12 | Jan 17 2012, 2:16 PM EST by freya9 | ||||
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Thread started: May 9 2011, 9:54 AM EDT
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Henry VIII had a son with Agnes Blewitt, named Richard Edwardes.
Richard Edwardes married Helen Griffiths and had a daughter, Elizabeth. Elizabeth married Robert Hunt, and had a son, William. William married Sarah Anne Harris, and had a daughter, Sarah. Sarah married George Pegram, and had a daughter, Elizabeth. Elizabeth married William Ryves, and had a son, William, who changed the family name to Reeves upon immigrating to America. William married Martha Wiley, and had a son, Isaac. Isaac married Elizabeth Shires, and had a son, James, who also changed the family name from Reeves to Raby, for some unknown reason. James and his wife, Nancy, had a son, Squire Raby. Squire married Nancy Mourfield, and had a son, Robert. Robert married Margaret Davis, and had a daughter, Minnie. Minnie married Arthur Piggott, and had a son, Arthur. Arthur married Lottie Atkinson, and had a son, Gerald. Gerald married Elizabeth Faulkner, and had a daughter, Amber. Amber married Richard Hatch, and had a son, Ryan Hatch, which is me. This makes Henry VIII my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather, through a bastardized line, which also makes me a descendant of the Plantagenet line through Henry.
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| FrancePetre | christmas and new year | 10 | Jan 8 2012, 8:22 AM EST by freya9 | ||||
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Thread started: Jan 2 2012, 6:41 AM EST
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what was christmas and new year like on tudors time .?
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| SixQueensofHenryVIII | Tudor Conspiracy Theories | 13 | Jan 5 2012, 9:53 PM EST by crystal_89 | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 29 2011, 6:29 PM EST
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Everyone loves a good conspiracy theory, whether it's plausible or not. Is there any famous Tudor conspiracies or ones you've heard from people less than qualified to make such assumptions?
I heard the most ridiculous theory, from a university student no less, that Catherine Howard was really Anne Boleyn. He said something about Henry didn't have the heart to kill Anne so he exiled her and she took up a new identity. After the peace and tranquility of Jane and Anne of Cleves he decided he wanted spunky Anne back and so married her under the identity of Katherine Howard. His proof? That she looked like Anne Boleyn and that he got rid of her in the same manner as he did with Anne B when he got sick of her. Let's just say our professor wasn't very impressed!
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| MsSquirrly | Who do you think was responsible for Anne Boleyn's fall? (page: 1 2 3 4) | 77 | Jan 5 2012, 5:04 PM EST by freya9 | ||||
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Thread started: May 11 2011, 11:53 AM EDT
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Recently the Anne Boleyn Files asked this question with the following multiple choice answer and I thought it was a pretty good question, what do you think?
Do you think the fall of Anne Boleyn was the idea of:- a) Henry VIII who then ordered Cromwell to get rid of Anne b) Thomas Cromwell who convinced Henry that Anne was guilty c) Thomas Cromwell and Henry together d) Other
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| MarinadeChampagne | George's sexual orientation | 6 | Jan 5 2012, 12:08 PM EST by Aura847 | ||||
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For the little I know about Georgre Boleyn, there is a clear opposition. Some say he was a womanizer, others say he was gay. Hirst showed us those two sides of George but then, I can't help but wondering. Gay? Heterosexual? Bi?
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| FrancePetre | wich wife do you think henri loved the most ? | 15 | Dec 27 2011, 10:07 AM EST by Lady_Amber | ||||
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Thread started: Oct 8 2011, 6:52 AM EDT
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some say jane , others Anne ...
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